batden
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Post by batden on May 13, 2021 10:54:22 GMT
Thunar-archive-plugin (uses xarchiver instead of file-roller) is installed by default in the AppPack version of Bodhi 6.
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Post by kiezel on May 13, 2021 12:27:09 GMT
Thunar-archive-plugin (uses xarchiver instead of file-roller) is installed by default in the AppPack version of Bodhi 6. OK, good to know.... Maybe that's a better candidate than file-roller then, as it's part of the Xfce ecosystem.
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Post by ylee on May 13, 2021 17:57:38 GMT
... By the way: perhaps it's an idea to add file-roller to future Bodhi versions? Unpacking compressed files is something that's more or less part of everyday computing.... I considered that when I made the BL5.1 ISO and reconsidered on this release. Knowing what to include and what to remove on a Distro that is advertised as minimalistic is not necessarily easy. Moksha itself does not need much to run. While I can play with that myself and take it all down to the bare-bones, most of our users would not be satisfied with that. I remember one release where Jeff for whatever reason did not include xdg-user-dirs and many of our users completely freaked out. Our forums and IRC channel were overrun with users wondering why their home directories were empty. Such a simple thing and clearly in one sense xdg-user-dirs is pure fluff: completely unneeded. mkdir whatever you want, problem solved. But back then our standard advice was to install the package and run the xdg-user-dirs-update command. I mentioned this to Raster once when he was trying to tell me I did not need a plymouth theme nor a DM, such as lightdm and his response was that is why he does not like end-users. Now imagine if ditched the plymouth theme and the DM and Bodhi booted to a command prompt? Sure that would not really bother me, xorg is installed efl and moksha. No problem startx and enlightenment_start and I would be ready to go. Even simpler with e24 as enlightenment_start starts it, tho admittedly in a wayland session. Now unlike rasters comment about not liking end-users, I do like them. What would Bodhi be without end-users? Just my own customized Ubuntu install and little more. Before I got involved with Bodhi I was doing that only it was Debian with e17 compiled. Now as to your suggestion to include file roller or even better the Thunar-archive-plugin and xarchiver for thunar support, it is true a large percentage of our users will end up installing one of those or something similar. It is also true that every single bit of that can be done via CLI. After all the tar command, gzip, and probably a few more is always installed, others can be installed. But it is also true this is not the most user friendly solution:  So yeah it is not a bad idea. Perhaps I will do that on the next batch of ISOs.
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Post by enigma9o7 on May 15, 2021 15:01:34 GMT
+1 on including thunar archive plugin with standard. I *imagine* everyone at some point tries to open an archive in file manager, so in that case it would be nice if it "just works" the first time, but I of course imagine people use their computers like me. Maybe some people never ever download any archived files and it would be useless for them, but if it were up to me it's something I'd include. But too late for 6.0 anyway, and bodhi hasnt traditionally included anything for that... I would be able to disarm the bomb tho! Beides the obvious "tar --help" I have memorized "tar xf" 
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Post by Hippytaff on May 15, 2021 15:34:07 GMT
+1 on including thunar archive plugin with standard. I *imagine* everyone at some point tries to open an archive in file manager, so in that case it would be nice if it "just works" the first time, but I of course imagine people use their computers like me. Maybe some people never ever download any archived files and it would be useless for them, but if it were up to me it's something I'd include. But too late for 6.0 anyway, and bodhi hasnt traditionally included anything for that... I would be able to disarm the bomb tho! Beides the obvious "tar --help" I have memorized "tar xf"  Agreed, and I would most certainly fail to disarm the bomb. No chance I’d remember. I have to look pretty much anything up that I haven’t used in the last 6 months.
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Post by wimc on May 15, 2021 22:39:52 GMT
Downloaded, USB sticked it, ran live version, very much loved it.
Big time Congratulations.
EDIT: not sure when I'll switch though.
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Post by oblio on May 16, 2021 0:47:30 GMT
...yeah, I too would have failed to disarm the bomb - alas, I would become smithereens  Good call on using --help however - love it! RTFM!
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Post by cooler on May 16, 2021 5:28:06 GMT
EDIT: not sure when I'll switch though.
On 6.1? 
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Post by cooler on May 16, 2021 9:54:49 GMT
Minor issue following release of 6.0: on bodhilinux.com description of "latest version" should be changed from 5.1 to 6.0.
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Post by ylee on May 16, 2021 12:43:57 GMT
Minor issue following release of 6.0: on bodhilinux.com description of "latest version" should be changed from 5.1 to 6.0. Fixed 
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Post by ahen on May 16, 2021 23:55:34 GMT
Nice job - thanks  Is this the appropriate thread for highlighting issues with the release, or should there be a dedicated thread for that? My (minor) issue - Wireguard's wg-quick script will fail in setting up a connection by default because there is no resolvconf or openresolv installed. Modern distributions generally have this. Installing openresolv fixes the issue.
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Post by enigma9o7 on May 17, 2021 5:03:10 GMT
Nice job - thanks  Is this the appropriate thread for highlighting issues with the release, or should there be a dedicated thread for that? My (minor) issue - Wireguard's wg-quick script will fail in setting up a connection by default because there is no resolvconf or openresolv installed. Modern distributions generally have this. Installing openresolv fixes the issue. I was curious so I tried running wg-quick. It appears that resolv package it is suggested but not recommended (thus it doesn't get installed automatically) and not a dependency.
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Post by ahen on May 17, 2021 7:39:26 GMT
Thanks. I just did the standard sudo apt install wireguard
and openresolv was not installed. But adding the extra install flag as you've shown would fix it also.
Use of that flag is generally not mentioned in "how to install wireguard" instructions found on the net though, so users are likely to run into this problem.
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Post by ylee on May 17, 2021 8:49:18 GMT
Nice job - thanks  Is this the appropriate thread for highlighting issues with the release, or should there be a dedicated thread for that? My (minor) issue - Wireguard's wg-quick script will fail in setting up a connection by default because there is no resolvconf or openresolv installed. Modern distributions generally have this. Installing openresolv fixes the issue. Sure this thread is ok for making suggestions like that. I looked over several Distros ISOs and resolvconf was on them all. So I added it as a dependency to bodhi-settings. I can tweak what is installed by doing things like that. It is hard to decide how minimal to make Bodhi's ISO. In this case I removed resolvconf because it starts a systemd service and things work without it. Thinking that a package that needed it would have it as a dependency.
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Post by mash on May 19, 2021 2:33:36 GMT
can i install app pack on 32 bit system ? thanx
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