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Post by ylee on Aug 22, 2023 11:26:01 GMT
The Bodhi Team is pleased to announce our much-anticipated release of Bodhi Linux 7.0, derived from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) base. This release is 64-bit only. I am departing with tradition and releasing the AppPack version later. A version that uses less memory during the installation is also on my ToDo list as well as a Debian 32-bit version and a pure enlightenment version. The latest ISOs can be downloaded at Sourceforge. Known Issues:I am adding an issues section here so others do not post in this thread or elsewhere the same information. - Somehow the set background functionality of thunar no longer works. Fixed in pkg thunar-bl
- Elementary applications are no using the Moksha Green icons as they should. Fixed in package bodhi-skel.
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Post by Sharp on Aug 22, 2023 14:21:32 GMT
The hwe one was the one I was waiting for. Got it and will begin "playing with it" shortly before installing. Many thanks!
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Post by thewaiter on Aug 22, 2023 14:33:41 GMT
Steep download curve on SourceForge
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 22, 2023 21:26:17 GMT
1.3GB? Seems a lot bigger than Bodhi 6's 832MiB. I'm kinda wondering what contributes to the much larger size?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 22, 2023 21:49:31 GMT
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 23, 2023 4:29:32 GMT
I gave it a quick test and looks great, as always excellent work ylee! But as always, I've got comments and questions!
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What's the deal with the s76 6.4 kernel version? Will that be a non-updating kernel, or will bodhi keep providing security updates thru bodhi repo?
Are there any major features that average user might miss, compared with relying on ubuntu's hwe? What is the motivation for offering this kernel?
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I first tested in Virtualbox with 1GB memory, and chromium was *extremely* slow to load, after waiting more than 5 minutes I gave up staring at empty window, rebooted and tried again with 1.5GB and chromium worked fine in live. I'm guessing this may be related to why a low memory installer is coming?
Then for some weird reason, it took well over half an hour to install... I seem to recall bodhi normally takes about ten minutes. I dunno if it was just freak occurrence or what, is that just me?
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As to the pure enlightenment version of bodhi, are you expecting it to support wayland sessions from login manager? If not,that would be cool to play with if login manager can offer X11 and Wayland sessions.
Will it use e 25.3 from ubuntu repo, or will you be building us 25.4 (or whatever's current)?
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Post by metafile on Aug 23, 2023 9:46:07 GMT
I'm someone using 5.1 32-bit, 6 apppack, and now both versions of 7!! All work equally as well TBH. It's a case of setting up 'moksha' optimally 'how-you-like-it', make it safe in each instance when online, and then enjoy and use. I have been on record in a video ('metafile' on "Rumble") in regards to the 5.1 32 bit in respect of how relevant it still is! "Bodhi" still without doubt the best 'ubuntu-based' sibling. I'm sold.... Best wishes to all.
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Post by fegidi on Aug 23, 2023 9:50:43 GMT
Thank-you very much indeed for your great work. It works perfectly. F The Bodhi Team is pleased to announce our much-anticipated release of Bodhi Linux 7.0, derived from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish) base. This release is 64-bit only. I am departing with tradition and releasing the AppPack version later. A version that uses less memory during the installation is also on my ToDo list as well as a Debian 32-bit version and a pure enlightenment version. View AttachmentThe latest ISOs can be downloaded at Sourceforge.
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Post by kittybua on Aug 23, 2023 11:33:03 GMT
Thanks for the best Linux ! 7.0 Rock 😀👍
I love the Standard Version this is best for me !
Thanks good Job 😃 Bodhi is the best 😄
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Post by ylee on Aug 23, 2023 22:29:04 GMT
I gave it a quick test and looks great, as always excellent work ylee! But as always, I've got comments and questions! --- What's the deal with the s76 6.4 kernel version? Will that be a non-updating kernel, or will bodhi keep providing security updates thru bodhi repo? Are there any major features that average user might miss, compared with relying on ubuntu's hwe? What is the motivation for offering this kernel? ... You will be able to update the s76 kernel, most likely. I will be following the updates in System76's PopOS repo. There have been 2 already since i got the idea of including this kernel. BTW the packages for this kernel are in the BL7 testing repo. I would expect the s76 kernel to have all the features of the HWE kernel plus any new features found in the newer kernel. It may not be as well tested as Ubuntu probably has more resources and users than PopOS. The motivation was to meet the needs of a particular user in our Discord channel actually. They had a new rather powerful laptop with hardware not supported by the HWE kernel in Jammy's repo. But the s76 kernel worked for them. Bleeding edge hardware needs a bleeding edge kernel. Bodhi is not just for old machines. I hope to attract more of the kind of user who has more powerful newer machines but happens to either like enlightenment or wants the speed and low memory usage Bodhi offers. ... As to the pure enlightenment version of bodhi, are you expecting it to support wayland sessions from login manager? If not,that would be cool to play with if login manager can offer X11 and Wayland sessions. Will it use e 25.3 from ubuntu repo, or will you be building us 25.4 (or whatever's current)? EFL is from the enlightenment git EFL repo in BL7 not an official release. I would prefer it to be from a EFL 1.26 release but have no idea when that will be released. EFL 1.26 has some issues fixed and raster's new flat theme which I want. So I will be using enlightenment also from e-git not from Ubuntu's repo nor any official release. For EFL the actual git commit used is identified in the changelog present in the deb file. I will do the same for e of course. My last ISO I offered with enlightenment on it did support both wayland and X11 sessions. But I am undecided at the moment about continuing this tradition for two reasons: - Lightdm does not support wayland sessions at all. So to have wayland sessions show by default I would have to use a DM like gdm
- Raster figured out in e-devel mailing list that if you have Nvidia cards and use Nvidia drivers you will have problems with wayland Raster blames Nvidia so he is not going to 'fix' it on the e side of things.
Considering this what do you think about it? Wayland support in e or not? If yes then lightdm and leave it to the user to install gdm or gdm by default on the e ISO?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 23, 2023 22:52:48 GMT
My last ISO I offered with enlightenment on it did support both wayland and X11 sessions. But I am undecided at the moment about continuing this tradition for two reasons: - Lightdm does not support wayland sessions at all. So to have wayland sessions show by default I would have to use a DM like gdm
- Raster figured out in e-devel mailing list that if you have Nvidia cards and use Nvidia drivers you will have problems with wayland Raster blames Nvidia so he is not going to 'fix' it on the e side of things.
Considering this what do you think about it? Wayland support in e or not? If yes then lightdm and leave it to the user to install gdm or gdm by default on the e ISO? Pretty sure lightdm does support wayland sessions, it just uses x11 to display the login manager itself. See the readme on ubuntu's github or archwiki or debian wiki or even wikipedia. I'm aware nvidia proprietary drivers don't work well with wayland. I think versions before 490 or so don't even support the GBM method that is currently used, so have no hope. It think drivers >490,such as the current one, do support it, but maybe not very well? Also I think nouveau does, but maybe not on old GPUs? That's kinda why I'd like to play with it, to see what works and doesn't for myself!
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Post by ylee on Aug 23, 2023 23:49:56 GMT
...Pretty sure lightdm does support wayland sessions, it just uses x11 to display the login manager itself. ... Seem like it does now. It did not display the e Wayland desktop file the last time I played with it, but that was maybe 2 years ago or so.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 24, 2023 3:20:01 GMT
...Pretty sure lightdm does support wayland sessions, it just uses x11 to display the login manager itself. ... Seem like it does now. It did not display the e Wayland desktop file the last time I played with it, but that was maybe 2 years ago or so.
I *think* all you have to do is copy the session file from the x11 folder the wayland folder, and its supposed to work automatically. But when I tried that for myself on debian, it added the wayland option in lightdm, but wouldn't actually start e, just crashed back to lightdm. however if i closed lightdm i could start e in wayland from command line, in fact when starting e from command line, wayland was default.
In any case, even the front page of enlightenment's website says wayland is experimental, so as long as that's mentioned in the release notes for bodhi's e version, people hopefully won't be led to believe it's fully stable yet, but mainly for testing. I personally curious cuz based on what I read, I can see wayland is the future, although I also don't see x11 going anywhere anytime soon either. In any case if bodhi were ever to want to go that way sometime in the future, I'd imagine enlightenment's implementation would be involved. So curious how it works now.
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Post by xpistian on Aug 24, 2023 7:08:03 GMT
Great news is great news. Thanks for the work!
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Post by Marcel on Aug 24, 2023 8:41:15 GMT
Thanks for this great release! Installed it yesterday, it's snappier than 6. My little netbook (Lenovo Ideapad 110S, 2GB ram, 32GB hd) is running fine and still good enough for my needs.
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