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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 25, 2023 12:30:20 GMT
I guess you could use Windows machines to manage the clients, but you'd have to set them up yourself, since the custom installer included in the Escuelas Linux 32-bit ISO for the Veyon server or its clients only works in Escuelas and possibly in other Debian-based distributions.
If you still need to use Windows for some reason, you can set up a dual-boot system. This will allow you to run Windows or Escuelas Linux on the same machine.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 25, 2023 14:11:56 GMT
Yes, this is probably what I'll end-up doing. Can I install the 64-bit Escuelas version at the Veyon servers although the clients are 32-bit, and still benefit from the easy installation scripts? I'll give it a try to install on Windows as well, although it seems complicated. I still need Windows, because there are some programs we plan to use that won't run on Linux. Which Veyon version should I install at the clients? There's a great variety for Debian and Ubuntu available here.
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 25, 2023 15:00:49 GMT
No problem, you can install 64-bit Escuelas Linux as Veyon servers and have the clients as 32-bit.
You don't need to know what version of Veyon, because the scripts take care of Veyon installation, too.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 25, 2023 19:29:58 GMT
I mean in case I try to manually configure a cross-platform installation. As far as the installation on the clients is concerned, should I download a certain version and run it or should I do something else?
And one more thing: how can I create different Escuela users (at least at the server PC) with password-protected accounts? There will probably be more colleagues using the lab, so each one should have his own account.
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 25, 2023 20:55:03 GMT
For all computers with Escuelas Linux installed, just follow the steps in "Configuring Veyon on Escuelas Linux", pages 98-100 of our installation guide. There is no need to download anything or do anything else.
As for creating new users, I'd prefer if someone more experienced could point us the correct way to do this in Bodhi Linux.
Note that the newly added accounts will not inherit all the bells and whistles available in the 'linux' account, they would be barebones accounts with a different look and feel and without the highly curated user experience that is the flagship feature of Escuelas Linux.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 26, 2023 8:11:35 GMT
I installed 64-bit at a partition at the best computer I have on my desk and set-up Veyon; it works perfectly! I'll try to make the cross-platform setup as well (Veyon server on Windows 11 and clients on Escuelas Linux 32-bit), because there will be more colleagues using it and everyone has to have his own account. Is Escuelas Linux 32-bit based on Debian 11 or 12?
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 26, 2023 17:21:50 GMT
Escuelas Linux 32-bit is currently based on Debian 11.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 27, 2023 11:56:52 GMT
Escuelas Linux is performing so well, that we are planning to install it at a second batch of PCs that are currently paired with projectors in the classrooms and are being replaced by interactive whiteboards. :-) These are more modern machines, with Core 2 Duo CPUs and 4GB RAM, so we will install the 64-bit version to replace the -now obsolete- Windows 7. They will be used to form a second IT lab, in order to support the school's main IT lab which has top-notch equipment and runs on Windows 11/Ubuntu 22.04 server, but is overpopulated.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 27, 2023 12:16:36 GMT
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 27, 2023 15:13:58 GMT
May I ask what brand of interactive whiteboard you are talking about? Not to burst your bubble, but a lot of companies that make interactive whiteboards do not support Linux, and the ones that did stopped doing so a long time ago...
And how the PCs connect to the projectors? if they use a VGA or HDMI cable, no problem. But if they have to use a USB to VGA dongle, you might have another problem. I have not found such a dongle that works with Linux.
Or maybe the computers are just being removed from the classrooms to create a second IT lab, in which case you can skip this rant. ;-)
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 27, 2023 17:17:17 GMT
They were installed just yesterday and not in my classroom. All I know from a quick glance, is that they're made by Samsung. They're stand-alone machines without need for an external computer -something like a huge tablet with a touchscreen and wireless keyboard/ mouse. I don't know for sure what operating system they're running on, but I heard someone say it's Android.
The PCs that will be removed from these classes have VGA and DisplayPort outputs. The plan is to buy used monitors for them, install Escuelas 64-bit and use them to form a second IT lab, as it's badly needed for multidisciplinary classes.
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 28, 2023 12:16:16 GMT
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Post by maxheadroom on Nov 8, 2023 9:57:41 GMT
The Lab keeps expanding its value to the school, as more colleagues use it now. :-) Three questions: 1) I have a problem with TinkerCAD, as the working space is distorted at some computers (appears like noise). It affects the eight original Lenovo machines (MSI MS-7283 Ver 1.0) and a newer one, which is a Core 2 Duo with an MSI MS-7366 Ver 1.0 M/B and onboard graphics (all running 32-bit 8.5): www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k4lo5d6svwggdh96duib5/shot-2023-11-07_10-13-00.jpg?rlkey=yqsggpdleatqq1t989vdyeiwo&dl=0 This happens with Firefox; Chromium won't show TinkerCAD's workspace at all: an hourglass appears and it doesn't go beyond that. I'd try another browser, but I'm not sure how can I install it. I also tried with 4GB RAM, in case 2GB were too little, but without any improvement. It probably is a drivers' issue. TinkerCAD is a very important tool in my class, is there any way to fix it? 2) How can I make a Shared folder so that all the computers in the same LAN can share files? 3) Trying to install a fix-pack, when I unzip the .gz file, copy the folder to a USB stick and run it at all the PCs, I get a message asking me to chose an application to open the executable file: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kcit9ouzcvmk5b0fps7se/shot-2023-11-07_10-47-03.jpg?rlkey=96kzsi1epw6zfs2wqnat2wc27&dl=0So, I have to copy and uncompress the the .gz file to all the PCs. Are there any hidden files that are not copied, are the file properties messed-up or is something else happening? All these operations are done in the environment of the Escuelas Linux, using the right-click commands.
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Post by escuelaslinux on Nov 8, 2023 17:26:34 GMT
1) From a quick internet search, I think both Lenovo models have an NVIDIA 7000 series GPU. If so, you can download the old proprietary driver from here: la.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/123708/en-usSince the driver cannot be installed on a machine that does not have a supported GPU, we don't know if it would actually work.
2) A good and light option might be to set up an NFS server and its clients. There are tons of documents on the web about this, but a good starting point might be these links: linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-and-configure-an-nfs-server-on-ubuntu-20-04/linuxize.com/post/how-to-mount-an-nfs-share-in-linux/
3) The reason this happens is that you are copying the uncompressed files to a USB stick that is probably formatted with FAT or NTFS, and these do not recognize Linux binary executables.
You may need to format your USB stick to EXT4 to be able to run Linux binaries, but be aware that this will make it unusable on Windows machines. You could create two partitions on a USB stick, one FAT32 or NTFS and another with EXT4, if you intend to use the same USB stick in both operating systems. Use Menu → Applications → System → GParted.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Nov 8, 2023 18:03:02 GMT
1) DO NOT install nvidia-304. It won't work with xorg > 1.19. You are likely to break things trying.
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