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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 15, 2023 10:22:19 GMT
Nothing wrong. It does that by design ;-) Indeed, when you restart the machine, you lose any customization you make to the Moksha desktop. But it's not an error; it is actually a feature. :-D By default, Escuelas Linux is delivered for use in publicly accessible school environments, so we preserve the desktop at every reboot to ensure the interface remains consistent. If you want your changes to stay, you can open Applications → System → Unlock Desktop. If you change your mind and wish to return to the default Escuelas Linux desktop, open Applications → System → Lock Desktop. If you set up your own desktop, with your own dock icons, your own language, your own background image, etc., and you want yours to be the new default desktop -but in a locked state for public use- you can open Applications → System → Commit Desktop Changes. Please be aware that these apps are shown in Spanish or English desktops. We are aware that they do not appear in other languages. We plan to fix this for the next release, but if you would like, we can release a Fix Pack to solve that issue now. A useful feature in public environments, indeed! Please release the Fix Pack, if it's not too much trouble. I'm also receiving some newer computers with 2GB RAM and I will install the english 32-bit version on these. I suppose I can select greek settings during the installation or later on (at least regional and keyboard, if not menus)? I noticed there are two fix packs for the 32-bit; I suppose all I have to do is install them, using the File manager, after the installation is complete?
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 15, 2023 16:26:12 GMT
Ready to go! Fix Pack 3 for Escuelas Linux 8.4 32-bit, released: sourceforge.net/projects/escuelaslinux/files/escuelaslinux-8.4-english-32/EscuelasLinux-8.4-32-FixPack-3.tar.gz/downloadYes, you can choose Greek settings during installation or later, as you prefer. You can install the (now) three Fix Packs after the installation is complete. However, you can skip Fix Pack number 1, as it adds PSeInt, a useful application that uses pseudocode as a first contact to introduce basic concepts such as the use of control structures, expressions, variables, etc. Unfortunately, it only runs in Spanish language.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 17, 2023 12:53:46 GMT
Ready to go! Fix Pack 3 for Escuelas Linux 8.4 32-bit, released: sourceforge.net/projects/escuelaslinux/files/escuelaslinux-8.4-english-32/EscuelasLinux-8.4-32-FixPack-3.tar.gz/downloadYes, you can choose Greek settings during installation or later, as you prefer. You can install the (now) three Fix Packs after the installation is complete. However, you can skip Fix Pack number 1, as it adds PSeInt, a useful application that uses pseudocode as a first contact to introduce basic concepts such as the use of control structures, expressions, variables, etc. Unfortunately, it only runs in Spanish language. I'm the loop now: I have greek keyboard only, so I can't use latin characters at the terminal to install english keyboard using the "ibus-setup" command. What's the best way out? I even tried picking up letter-by-letter from a random page at the browser, but even Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V doesn't seem to work the way I know. :-( I also tried Ibus at another PC which already had english keyboard. I didn't have any trouble installing more keyboard layouts, but I can't make the Alt+Shift combination work. It is accepted, but doesn't switch between keyboards, so this can only be done using the mouse. This isn't convenient, as we do it all the time here... BTW How do I install the fixes? Apparently, it can't be done by double-clickng with the mouse, so it has to be some command at the terminal?
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 17, 2023 15:21:29 GMT
You can copy the word "ibus-setup" from our installation manual, then paste it into Terminology (BTW, Ctrl-V does not work in Terminology, you should press Ctrl-Shift-V, or right click and select "Paste". We can reproduce the problem of Alt-Shift not working, or even other combinations. We don't know the source of this bug, and so far we haven't been able to solve it by searching the web for possible solutions. Our announcement for Escuelas Linux 8.4 32-bit Fix Pack 3 describes how to install this Fix Pack, and the general procedure described applies to other fix packs as well: sourceforge.net/p/escuelaslinux/blog/2023/10/escuelas-linux-fix-pack-3-for-version-84-32-bit/
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Post by thewaiter on Oct 17, 2023 15:45:07 GMT
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 17, 2023 15:53:11 GMT
Do I have to run the Ibus-setup first and then search for the xkbswitch somewhere in the settings, or do something else?
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Post by thewaiter on Oct 17, 2023 15:57:33 GMT
I do not think you need Ibus for Greek. Try my method first. If you have keyboard module on the shelf, fine, follow my video. If not, load the module from modules settings (menu->settings->modules) and load "Keyboard". Then press right mouse button on any empty shelf area and select Content. Add keyboard module on the shelf. Then add Greek and English layouts. And Alt Shift shortcut. Enjoy
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 17, 2023 16:02:49 GMT
Sure, I will try it tomorrow at school. Thanks! Does this apply to Escuelas as well?
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Post by thewaiter on Oct 17, 2023 16:04:15 GMT
Yea, Escuelas is based on Bodhi. We are big Escuelas brothers, lol (Hi Alejandro ). Stefan
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 17, 2023 16:37:28 GMT
Yea, Escuelas is based on Bodhi. We are big Escuelas brothers, lol (Hi Alejandro ). Stefan Hi brother Stefan!!! :
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 17, 2023 18:10:32 GMT
In the meantime, we have figured out what it takes to have a working keyboard shortcut with ibus. You would need to copy/paste this into Terminology:
gsettings set org.freedesktop.ibus.general switcher-delay-time '-1'
However, we were not able to make it work specifically with "alt-shift", but with other combinations like "alt-space", "alt-z"...
Now you have two ways to use a keyboard switcher with a shortcut. With great power comes great responsibility ;-D
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 18, 2023 7:07:57 GMT
I do not think you need Ibus for Greek. Try my method first. If you have keyboard module on the shelf, fine, follow my video. If not, load the module from modules settings (menu->settings->modules) and load "Keyboard". Then press right mouse button on any empty shelf area and select Content. Add keyboard module on the shelf. Then add Greek and English layouts. And Alt Shift shortcut. Enjoy Worked fine! @alejandro: Maybe include this in the manual, instead of the Ibus method?
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 18, 2023 9:16:33 GMT
You can copy the word "ibus-setup" from our installation manual, then paste it into Terminology (BTW, Ctrl-V does not work in Terminology, you should press Ctrl-Shift-V, or right click and select "Paste". We can reproduce the problem of Alt-Shift not working, or even other combinations. We don't know the source of this bug, and so far we haven't been able to solve it by searching the web for possible solutions. Our announcement for Escuelas Linux 8.4 32-bit Fix Pack 3 describes how to install this Fix Pack, and the general procedure described applies to other fix packs as well: sourceforge.net/p/escuelaslinux/blog/2023/10/escuelas-linux-fix-pack-3-for-version-84-32-bit/I installed fix pack 2 and 3. Fix 3 gave me an OK response at the end and asked to reboot. Fix 2 just closed the window after some time applying (I ran it twice). Is this normal? I also applied the changes to the default desktop, after adjusting keyboards, and it worked. Great feature!
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Post by escuelaslinux on Oct 18, 2023 12:46:02 GMT
Fix Pack 2 should also prompt you to reboot. We have not been able to reproduce the behavior of not prompting to reboot here.
While running Fix Pack 2, you can open Terminology and type a few times:
cat /tmp/EscuelasLinux.txt
The EscuelasLinux.txt file is a temporary log of what the Fix Pack is doing, and when the job is finished it should display a message that says "Service Pack installation completed". If this text message appears, and at the same time the graphical front-end does not prompt you to reboot, we may need to take a closer look at the code, but you can safely reboot knowing that the Fix Pack has been successfully applied.
Remember that CommitDesktopChanges, as well as LockDesktop and UnlockDesktop, are applications that only affect the Moksha desktop. However, if a user changes any application (LibreOffice, GIMP, Firefox, etc.), those changes will be preserved even after the computer is rebooted. If you need to restore the programs or applications to their original state, open Menu → Applications → System → RestoreUser.
In this way, you will be able to run our application that will allow you to restore all the programs to their default state without deleting the files previously created by the users. This action only takes a few seconds and saves a lot of headaches for computer lab administrators. If something is wrong or misconfigured in any program, just run RestoreUser; there is no need to find out who did something or what configuration was changed.
If you are starting a new school cycle, you don't need to go into every folder to find and delete files created by previous users. In this case, you can run Menu → Applications → System → ReinstateUser to automatically delete all the files created by the previous users and at the same time restore all the programs to their default state, as if Escuelas Linux had just been installed.
For the 2 GB machines you just received, you can install with our normal 32-bit ISO, since the LowMem edition has a difficult installation procedure.
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Post by maxheadroom on Oct 18, 2023 14:13:42 GMT
Fix Pack 2 should also prompt you to reboot. We have not been able to reproduce the behavior of not prompting to reboot here. While running Fix Pack 2, you can open Terminology and type a few times: cat /tmp/EscuelasLinux.txt The EscuelasLinux.txt file is a temporary log of what the Fix Pack is doing, and when the job is finished it should display a message that says "Service Pack installation completed". If this text message appears, and at the same time the graphical front-end does not prompt you to reboot, we may need to take a closer look at the code, but you can safely reboot knowing that the Fix Pack has been successfully applied. I will try this tomorrow and I'll get back to you. :-) Remember that CommitDesktopChanges, as well as LockDesktop and UnlockDesktop, are applications that only affect the Moksha desktop. However, if a user changes any application (LibreOffice, GIMP, Firefox, etc.), those changes will be preserved even after the computer is rebooted. If you need to restore the programs or applications to their original state, open Menu → Applications → System → RestoreUser. In this way, you will be able to run our application that will allow you to restore all the programs to their default state without deleting the files previously created by the users. This action only takes a few seconds and saves a lot of headaches for computer lab administrators. If something is wrong or misconfigured in any program, just run RestoreUser; there is no need to find out who did something or what configuration was changed. If you are starting a new school cycle, you don't need to go into every folder to find and delete files created by previous users. In this case, you can run Menu → Applications → System → ReinstateUser to automatically delete all the files created by the previous users and at the same time restore all the programs to their default state, as if Escuelas Linux had just been installed. This is absolutely great and will save me a lot of trouble! Will RestoreUser and ReinstateUser also delete the files added by the fixes and changes by Commit Desktop or are they safe? For the 2 GB machines you just received, you can install with our normal 32-bit ISO, since the LowMem edition has a difficult installation procedure. Yes, this is the version I installed, as all the machines now have 2GB RAM. It's a motley crew with CPUs varying from the original AMD Athlon X2 64 to Core 2 Duo and i3. They were in poor shape but I've managed to make them all work, except from one that's giving me a nasty "DMA-1 fatal error" at POST. I'm about to finish working on the hardware and next comes the OS. Do you think I may clone one installation to all the other machines using Clonezilla and a USB stick or is it not a good idea?
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