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Post by franz47 on Feb 19, 2023 8:33:36 GMT
I am trying to resuscitate my friends' HP Probook 4515s which became unusable with the newer Windows versions with Bodhi 6.0.0. It should be 64bit capable.
I have tried several ways to install a 6.0.0 version. Pendrivelinux Yumi - gives errors, no way. I deleted all partitions from the HDD before installing. From DVD-RW in internal drive: language for keyboard can be chosen, thereafter it worked over night without progress. Killed in the morning. Now with quite new external drive and DVD-R burnt yesterday next try. Hangs at language choice. The choices are shown but cursor cannot be moved with keyboard or mouse. Drive LED blinking and audible activity but no progress for an hour.
What else could I try?
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Post by thewaiter on Feb 19, 2023 9:20:04 GMT
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Post by franz47 on Feb 19, 2023 11:37:40 GMT
Hi, thanks for your reply,
I thought about that, too, and checked, it was ok. I have tried with all 3 ISOs and ran into similar problems. At the moment I have made a USB-stick with Rufus (instead of Pendrivelinux), it started and has progressed beyond language choices to the choices to download updates and proprietary software which I turned on. 4 of the 7 point at the bottom are full. Clock rotating.....will see after a few hours.
After a few hours everything unchanged, no progress.
I have also tried to install from the first menu straightforward and from within the trial desktop. Same problem.
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Post by thewaiter on Feb 19, 2023 11:47:10 GMT
Be aware this:
With rufus choose DD mode (Not ISO as recommended). Also avoid downloading 3rd party drivers during the installation. It will freeze your installation.
Stefan
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Post by franz47 on Feb 19, 2023 15:23:32 GMT
My fault that I did not read the detailed installation instructions....
Now I have made the Rufus DD stick, have passed beyond language, keyboard, software update without 3rd party drivers activated, hdd wiping and repartitioning questions to choice of location. 6/7 points at the bottom are completed, now the installation hangs with Los Angeles (in reality I am in Central Europe). mouse cursor moves and is an arrow, but I cannot choose another location on the map or enter a different name in the text box. I have waited for about 15 min, usually (when I install an Ubuntu) this is passed quite swiftly. LAN-socket LED is blinking but I cannot tell whether it means downloading, HDD LED not active, WLAN-LED indicates inactivity.
Could it be that I have no internet connection, no active LAN-interface? I have used the standard ISO as source.
I killed the installation again. Trial with software updates also unselected. Finds correct location but then no progress any more. Button "continue" not active to use it. Killed it, started again, same halt at world map with correct location chosen.
What puzzles me - I had installed Bodhi 4.5 32bit since I thought the CPU could not handle 64bit. And that worked somehow. No problems during installation at least.
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Post by Hippytaff on Feb 20, 2023 9:28:47 GMT
Have you checked the md5. Might be a corrupted iso
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Post by thewaiter on Feb 20, 2023 9:37:50 GMT
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Post by franz47 on Feb 20, 2023 13:10:32 GMT
This 7.0.x does not work at all with that laptop, neither trial install nor direct install. Stops with kernel panic etc etc
But I tried it on a newer desktop with a Ryzen 5 CPU - worked perfectly, as well trial from USB-stick as also installation to hdd. So it must be the old hardware. I will try with older version of 64bit Bodhi.
So I assume that the old laptop has a 32bit CPU after all. Now I tried with the latest 32bit 5.1.0 legacy version and it installed without major problems.
I just tried to find out from the HP website, which CPU this piece has, no way, the S/N was not recognized any more.
Why did some trial installations 64bit work?
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Post by franz47 on Feb 22, 2023 15:10:28 GMT
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 23, 2023 4:14:45 GMT
There are three kernel parameters that I think may be worth trying, by pressing tab or c to edit from bootmenu/grub and editing command line.
nomodeset noapic acpi=off
If it boots then, trial and error til you figure out which one is required and add it to /etc/default/grub to make it permanent (and sudo update-grub).
Another idea is bios settings, see if there's anything to try differently. Maybe have some apic or acpi things you can disable or enable in there. Maybe have some legacy boot setting or secure boot or settings you can try changing.
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Post by R0bur on Feb 23, 2023 16:54:35 GMT
Try these steps when your installation process will stop again:
1) Switch from the installer to the text console №2 pressing [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[F2]
2) Enter the login name: bodhi
3) Enter the commands:
dmesg | tail
journalctl | tail
4) Analyse the commands output.
You can switch back to installer any time using [Alt]+[F1].
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Post by R0bur on Feb 24, 2023 8:42:23 GMT
If your notebook has only 1Gb of RAM, this is too few for Bodhi Linux 6.0 and 7.0. Some part of the RAM is reserved for built-in graphics adapter. Bodhi Linux 6.0 requires at least 768 Mb of the free RAM for installation.
You can switch to the text console as described above and enter the command:
free -h
Write here what value is under the word "Total".
P. S. I don't know what modification of ProBook 4515s you have. AFAIK, this model has discrete graphics adapter with dedicated memory. Try to switch the notebook from the integrated ATI UMA with shared memory to the discrete ATI graphics. The operating system will get more RAM and installation will be finished successfully.
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Post by franz47 on Feb 25, 2023 13:04:16 GMT
If your notebook has only 1Gb of RAM, this is too few for Bodhi Linux 6.0 and 7.0. Yes, it has only 1 GB of RAM, so I will stick with the working 32bit intallation of 5.1.0 if I don't come across a better choice of another Linux distro. And since making backup and recovery of the quite small hdd is possible easily and quickly with my bootable Acronis media, trying something else won't waste much time.
Bodhi Linux 6.0.0, System Requirements:
Minimum:
32bit, 500MHz Processor (including Non-PAE)
512MB** of RAM
5GB of drive space
Recommended:
64bit, 1.0GHz processor
768MB of RAM
10GB of drive space
That was the reason, why I attempted to install the 64bit version. A 32bit version of 6.0 is not available yet.
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Post by R0bur on Feb 25, 2023 15:29:44 GMT
If your notebook has only 1Gb of RAM, this is too few for Bodhi Linux 6.0 and 7.0. Yes, it has only 1 GB of RAM 1Gb of RAM is quite enough for Bodhi Linux 6.0 when the integrated video adapter doesn't eat some of it. Try to switch the notebook to the discrete ATI video. This will allow you as run Bodhi live as install it. |
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Post by franz47 on Mar 6, 2023 12:20:30 GMT
Try to switch the notebook to the discrete ATI video. This will allow you as run Bodhi live as install it. I went through all BIOS configs, there is nothing offering a choice for the display. |
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