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Post by kev392 on Feb 4, 2022 8:37:44 GMT
Peppermint 11 and Slackware 15.0 have been officially released. Also EasyOS 3.3 and TinyCore 13.0 DistroWatch is a good website to keep up with these releases. distrowatch.com/ |
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Post by thewaiter on Feb 4, 2022 9:25:42 GMT
I have read about Peppermint. The devs had hard times after their main dev passed away. It was very long time awaited release. I have read the comments to last release and users complain about the heavy RAM usage. It is around 1 GB. I am not sure if XFCE is a culprit but it seems Peppermint is not a lightweight distro any more.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 4, 2022 15:20:59 GMT
I've played with the new peppermint in VM, so can share some thoughts/observations. It is not lightweight as far as memory, but is fairly minimilastic as far as installed apps. The first thing I noticed is, it kept locking up in live and during the install. This was cuz I was using VM with 1GB. I've installed dozens of other distros with only 1GB before... Once I bumped the ram to 1.5GB it installed in a few minutes tho. The ISO is 1.4GB but doesn't even include a web browser in live environment (and so you'd need more memory for virtual disk space to be able to install one). Once installed it takes ~650MB ram to boot. It has both nemo and thunar installed. It starts out, both live and installed, at 1152x968 or something which was cool as most distro in VM start at 800x600.
By default, the terminal is slightly transparent, and gets more transparent when moving the window around.
It starts out with fairly plain wallpaper background. Their version of app store has a collection of wallpapers under 'peppermint extras' but they fail to install, some type of bug.
Installer when I tried with 1GB RAM
Installed
They tried to setup so firefox would install from unstable, but didn't allow its dependencies from unstable, so it doesn't quite work as is.
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Post by thewaiter on Feb 4, 2022 16:10:49 GMT
Thanx for some detailed info. Just a little typo in your text. You apparently mean ~650 MB (not GB).
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 4, 2022 16:20:48 GMT
Thanx for some detailed info. Just a little typo in your text. You apparently mean ~650 MB (not GB). Stefan
hehehe, corrected, thanks!
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Post by kev392 on Feb 5, 2022 12:59:07 GMT
I have Peppermint 11 on my list to try out. I will wait a few weeks for them to work out the bugs. Perhaps enigma9o7 is a time traveler, so he remembers a 650 GB RAM computer from the future  |
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Post by kev392 on Feb 5, 2022 13:06:26 GMT
Also, it seems the new Peppermint will avoid the old numbering system ending with 10.
The new versions will be semi-rolling release and be named for the date it is released.
This one is called 2022-02-02
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Post by kev392 on Feb 11, 2022 22:28:00 GMT
Peppermint review: www.debugpoint.com/2022/02/peppermint-os-2022-02-02-review/Points of interest: One decision that may create a problem for some users is that there is no Web Browser installed as default. The Peppermint team want to give the user the option to choose a browser for themselves. But if you are installing it offline, you need an internet connection to get a browser downloaded and installed. No image viewer is installed by default, which is very uncommon. Bluetooth didn’t work on test hardware. The reviewer could not find Bluetooth daemon and it is not installed with Blueman or related manager. This may cause some issues for users who want to connect to an external Bluetooth headset or speakers. One setting, which should be enabled by default, is Tap to Click. It is really difficult for Laptop or touchpad users to operate without it. The reviewer describes the performance as "excellent", considering the new lightweight Xfce desktop. It was run for 10 hours in a virtual machine, and it consumed around 900 MB of memory, and the CPU was at 3% on average. My own observations, I don't consider Xfce to be lightweight. It's midweight IMO, but on the light side of that scale. I've seen MATE consume less RAM. Also, I've seen Cinnamon DE at startup consume less than 600 MB on Linux Mint. That doesn't last long however, but still much better than GNOME. There's a combination of both Debian Stable and Unstable repos, which YouTuber Eznix says is trouble waiting to happen. I have yet to download and install, as I prefer to wait for bug fixes and the potential for better features. |
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Post by shedyed on Feb 13, 2022 23:31:32 GMT
There is a custom distro out prepared by a team from Sweden, and you can try out Slackware 15 with Enlightenment 25. I tried a live USB but you -do- have to log in as root. Proceed--if you dare--to exton.linux.net. I am already used to the Bodhi way of doing things that it would take me some time to re-learn Slack. Don't get me wrong; Slackware helped me in learning how to 'roll your own' i.e (make, make config, etc) then newer players came that prepared packages and made working with Linux a bit more convenient, so you can get to work right away. It's a one-man team, if I remember correctly.
The good news is, I finally installed Bodhi  Many thanks to ylee and Stefan and everybody else that were involved. And no, I won't be tethering anymore. |
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Post by kev392 on Feb 14, 2022 5:12:37 GMT
Yes I believe exton is made for people with eyesight disabilities.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 18, 2022 3:32:57 GMT
Distrowatch published a fairly detailed review of Slackware 15. distrowatch.com/weekly.php?pollnumber=344&myaction=NewVote&issue=20220214&newvote=1#slackwareIt certainly does not sound ideal for beginners who don't want to read documentation! For those who understand everything it may be fun, but I dunno, sounds like it's really geared for people who have been using linux since the 90s and don't like unneeded changes to more modern things... Coincidentally, slackware is the first linux distro I ever used; I had a college roommate in 1994 who ran it (while at the time I ran OS/2; we both thought our OS would dominate the future... we did not predict win9x disrupting things). As to peppermint, they quietly released a slightly updated ISO that corrected most of the issues I observed on their 2/2/22 version, so that's a good thing. They also haven't released a 32-bit version, so Bodhi still has a chance to release the first 32-bit bullseye based distro.... LMDE5 coming soon tho... |
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Post by kev392 on Feb 18, 2022 21:08:13 GMT
I gave some thought on trying Slackware. I was waiting for version 15. Slackers swear by their distro.
The more I read, the more I began to see what enigma9o7 was seeing. A whole bunch of things harkened back to the 1990s and I certainly was in no position to properly install such a thing back then.
I could tackle such things now, but is it worth my time and effort?
If I need to exhibit that amount of control over a system, I might as well go Gentoo or Linux From Scratch.
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Post by ligoxi on Mar 10, 2022 15:44:00 GMT
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Many thanks to ylee and Stefan and everybody else that were involved. And no, I won't be tethering anymore.