gothica
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Post by gothica on Dec 1, 2021 16:13:10 GMT
Help to suggest best suitable laptop? needs: - availability on the market - programming or development tasks - good price  PS. currently i have cheap chinese laptop with Intel N4100 Celeron CPU and 4GB of RAM. Although for Bodhi and some tasks 4gb of ram is ok, but for comfortable working it should be more (like 16gb). But it seems, some things are let me crazy (like touchpad suddenly hangs, switches between layouts after suspends issue..., and dead battery..). I remember that there was Thinkpad series and there were a wiki pages for comparability thinkapad and linux... but... what about Bodhi? What is your home laptop which you are working on with Bodhi all the time? |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 1, 2021 16:32:11 GMT
If you want good price, I recommend used. What's your budget, and where do you live? The way I picked my laptop ( Sony VPCF115FM) was I decided budget and some mandatory requirements (full size keyboard with 10-key, 16-18"+ 1920x1080 display, bdrom/dvdrw) then looked up cpu benchmark on every laptop on craiglist in my area with those features under my max price, and bought this one for $110 several years ago. At the time I wasn't shopping with linux in mind; I initially installed win10 on it, but later when I started using bodhi/linux on my old machines and decided I liked it so much, I put it on this machine too. I also have never used the bluray drive to play a bluray disc, and only used the optical drive a couple times, so turned out that requirement was me living in the pastd - although now I have a 5tb hard drive in that slot so turned out useful. I also ended up replacing the 750gb sata drive with SSD. Another thing I've learned is, nvidia gpu isn't always as convenient with linux. This laptop does indeed use nvidia-340 proprietary driver, which is already EOL, and not supported on kernel newer than 5.4. Also, I cannot use wayland, which doesn't affect Bodhi yet, but is a limitation. So if I were buying another machine today, I would probably avoid one with nvidia gpu. So my advice is of course, do what I did. Pick your mandatory requirements, then use that to lookup cpu benchmark on every used machine under your budget.
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Post by gothica on Dec 1, 2021 18:22:55 GMT
If you want good price, I recommend used. What's your budget, and where do you live? The way I picked my laptop ( Sony VPCF115FM) was I decided budget and some mandatory requirements (full size keyboard with 10-key, 16-18"+ 1920x1080 display, bdrom/dvdrw) then looked up cpu benchmark on every laptop on craiglist in my area with those features under my max price, and bought this one for $110 several years ago. At the time I wasn't shopping with linux in mind; I initially installed win10 on it, but later when I started using bodhi/linux on my old machines and decided I liked it so much, I put it on this machine too. I also have never used the bluray drive to play a bluray disc, and only used the optical drive a couple times, so turned out that requirement was me living in the pastd - although now I have a 5tb hard drive in that slot so turned out useful. I also ended up replacing the 750gb sata drive with SSD. Another thing I've learned is, nvidia gpu isn't always as convenient with linux. This laptop does indeed use nvidia-340 proprietary driver, which is already EOL, and not supported on kernel newer than 5.4. Also, I cannot use wayland, which doesn't affect Bodhi yet, but is a limitation. So if I were buying another machine today, I would probably avoid one with nvidia gpu. So my advice is of course, do what I did. Pick your mandatory requirements, then use that to lookup cpu benchmark on every used machine under your budget.
Budget is "difficult to answer" question i think. Especially when you live in Russia, because final price (in rubles) depends on dollar (usd). And for last 5 years, the price for one unit of any electronic device increased by 2 times. Some people buying apple products, others - any other laptop. But buy "used" laptop is very dangerous thing in our country. Lots of people cheating on the market. Thats why i suppose better to buy the new laptop. |
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Post by thewaiter on Dec 1, 2021 18:58:32 GMT
Here in Slovakia laptops prices increased too. Apparently due Covid situation. Lots of people on home office, kids also at home on Zoom or Teams. Yes, I would also recommend second hand laptop. Here is no problem to buy one. Of course I would see and test laptop before the purchase. I always demand a personal meeting with the seller. My last laptop is Lenovo Ideapad 3 with AMD Ryzen 3 and it fulfils my needs although with 4GB RAM. It is enough for my Bodhi dev work. 265 € for second hand laptop was a great price.
There is also another option here. Many companies do older but still usable computers renovations. But I never liked their prices.
So it is up to you. Budget is a primary question.
Stefan
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Post by gothica on Dec 2, 2021 11:40:33 GMT
sometimes it seems that laptop with Intel N4100 and 4gb of RAM is enough... but when you want to run special apps like docker / enterprise servers / android studio - it seems that its slow
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Post by cooler on Dec 2, 2021 20:54:31 GMT
Hello
As you said N4100 is quite low so something better would be very easy to find (most laptops for existing on the market new or used are better).
My advice to you as someone who had way over 100 laptop passing trough my hands is to buy used from someone you could meet up with.
Cheap new laptops are quite crappy and they are not that cheap actually. So it's much better to buy an older good quality laptop (for example Dell Precision, Lenovo Thinkpad, HP Elitebook, etc).
As Stefan said your budget it's very important so that should be your starting point.
Good luck!
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Post by ylee on Dec 2, 2021 22:01:29 GMT
For best results in any heavy usage, I recommend at least 8G ram or more if possible and at least a quad-core processor. I have 16G and Intel Core i7-4750HQ on the laptop I use for Bodhi dev work and it does well enough for the work I do. For the record, I make heavy use of VMs.
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Post by gothica on Dec 3, 2021 8:05:57 GMT
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Post by jack on Feb 21, 2023 14:41:33 GMT
Here in the United Snakes, it's often possible to get a used computer from a computer store. If the computer is an utter failure, that hurts the store's reputation, or, at least, that's my theory. I don't know whether there are stores like that in RU. The store near me can also do repairs. They replaced an optical drive for me a couple of days ago.
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