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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 28, 2021 0:17:20 GMT
I've been playing with this lots lately, both on hardware and in VM. So in regards to /etc/apt/sources.list, I think it would be good idea to include bullseye-backports too. [Bodhi Standard includes focal-backports]. These don't install automatically anyway in either case and hardly anything there.... but for example I did notice inxi already has an updated version in bullseye-backports. Also, in comparison with ubuntu, apparently debian doesnt have quite as much codecs/multimedia support built in, and the solution for that is to add the multimedia repositories (and key) from deb-multimedia.org. This would make bl6 legacy more similar to bl6 standard in that most multimedia stuff "just works". But maybe not, I dunno, just a thought. deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye contrib main non-free
# deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug/ bullseye-debug contrib main non-free
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye contrib main non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
# Backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
# Multimedia
deb https://www.deb-multimedia.org bullseye main non-free
deb https://www.deb-multimedia.org bullseye-backports mainIf anyone wants to test this on existing system, one way is:
sudo apt edit-sources # paste in the multimedia section from above, and backports while you're at it if you want
sudo apt update -oAcquire::AllowInsecureRepositories=true
echo y | sudo apt install deb-multimedia-keyring
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Post by enigma9o7 on Sept 4, 2021 4:57:11 GMT
Seventeen days, 3 hours so far,no problems.  |
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Post by oblio on Sept 4, 2021 11:40:07 GMT
My initial install is still running well - my kids use it roughly daily without issue - games, general web surfing, etc.. That said, it has not been up that entire time (save power, etc).
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Post by ylee on Sept 5, 2021 10:42:34 GMT
My initial install is still running well - my kids use it roughly daily without issue - games, general web surfing, etc.. That said, it has not been up that entire time (save power, etc). That is good to hear. It is pretty stable for me also, running it on my acer netbook as well as a dell desktop and a couple vms. My main issue is what to do about old kernels and supporting hardware that the 5.x kernel or current xorg and drivers no long work or work well on. So far I have not been satisfied with my own attempts at compiling the needed stuff. Not to mention it is very time consuming on the machine I am doing it on. |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Oct 17, 2021 22:08:56 GMT
Any updates on beta2 or rc? I saw an LQ post recently where someone mentioned bodhi's current 32-bit is "old" but have a new one coming, so the word is out there  I recently learned that epiphany is one of the few (if not only) maintained web browsers that doesn't require SSE2. So this may be a reason to keep it as default browser for legacy... just in case someone tries it on AlthonXP or P-III (which someone in another thread on here did in fact ask about...) I also believe we leverage mint's 64-bit chromium build, but no such 32-bit build from them. (Although debian itself still providing chromium package bodhi could use directly, or we could repackage bionic's 32-bit version too if want latest version with same customizations as bodhi 6).
Another suggestion; I noticed inxi seems to get fairly regular updates from backports, so maybe start the iso with that version. Inxi's direct updater that bypasses package system, "sudo inxi -U" is disabled in debian/ubuntu so that cannot be easily used for updates without messing with config files.
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Post by ylee on Oct 19, 2021 10:09:14 GMT
I have returned to work altho I am currently working out of state. That means i no longer have as much time as I might like to work on stuff. Meanwhile Štefan keeps adding new features to Moksha that naturally I would like to incorporate into our next release whether it is Bullseye based or a point release of our Ubuntu base. He is still working on his latest change ...
So i can not really give a definite date for any new releases. And as you know Bullseye presents some issues with the kernel version and certain old hardware. I still have no solution for that issue that I am 100% satisfied with.
I will take a look at inxi updates and epiphany on Bullseye.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Oct 22, 2021 19:35:43 GMT
Congrats on the new job! I'm lucky enough the 5.10 kernel works fine with my 32-bit machine, so not concerned about that myself. I see debian updated to 11.1 now, bunch of updates this time.... Attachments:
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Post by enigma9o7 on Oct 24, 2021 1:43:41 GMT
Finally found a new bug to report. In some situations, I cannot use the built in Moksha features to change an applications icon; the apply button disables if the icon I want to change it to already exists, so cannot apply the change.
[Arcgreen icons include a green "chromium" icon which works for default chromium package in debian and bodhi-chromium on bodhi 6 standard, but not for "chromium-browser" from bionic /bodhi 5.1, so that one defaults to hicolor without user intervention. I noticed this cuz I installed chromium-browser package from bionic onto bl6 legacy beta.]
I played around with it trying to understand but only confused myself. After observing on 6.0beta I tested on 5.1 and thought it seemed to behave the same (and do nothing) when I changed icon to chromium, so I changed it to terminal and it let me apply that, then I could change it to chromium and it'd apply. But now it lets me go back and forth between chromium-browser and chromium icons no problem, so I'm half wondering if I imagined that it wouldn't let me change it before, but I'm sure that's not the case. In any case, on the bl6-legacy i cant even change it to terminal as an intermediate step and I've frustrated/confuses myself trying to figure out what makes it work sometimes but not others.
(to be clear, I know how to edit the desktop file directly, just reporting a bug, not a support request, this problem is trivial to workaround manually)
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Post by ylee on Oct 24, 2021 21:11:41 GMT
Ok I can duplicate the weirdness of the desktop editor when one does what you have described (installed chromium-browser package from bionic onto bl6 legacy beta).
I am unsure what is going on exactly but looking over the code for the desktop editor I see a number of FIXMEs in the comments (goes back to the e17 origins of moksha). Clearly, that code needs some work. This is a minor issue and I am unsure when I will get to take a closer look at it.
But thanks for reporting it and it will at least make it way onto my list of known issues.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Nov 3, 2021 16:51:51 GMT
Found something else to report! Normally I install most stuff from command line so hadn't used the bodhi app center before, but just gave it a try now. When I click install and approve it using AptURL then it tells me to install synaptic. Well, it already is...
Update: I just tested with chromium, works fine. So firefox related. Note that as packaged now, the iso provides firefox, not chromium, and selecting app center from menu opens it in firefox even tho I have installed chromium myself... besides, it should work in any browser I assume...
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Post by oliviermondo on Nov 26, 2021 12:49:12 GMT
I just discovered this version of Bodhi Linux based on Debian .
I will test it in a few days on my Thinkpad X60s .
But when I see the result in a virtual machine, I think it should be a treat.
It will only miss some additional packages like evisum and the trick will be done.
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Post by kev392 on Nov 26, 2021 18:02:41 GMT
I just discovered this version of Bodhi Linux based on Debian . I will test it in a few days on my Thinkpad X60s . But when I see the result in a virtual machine, I think it should be a treat. It will only miss some additional packages like evisum and the trick will be done. Welcome to the forums. There is a Software Request section on this board if you think it would be good to have Bodhi include it. |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Nov 26, 2021 19:46:13 GMT
Actually Bodhi already provides evisum in Bodhi repository for other BL5/BL6, so it's not exactly a new request, more of an issue report to make bl6 legacy work the same as bl6 standard (which I believe is bodhi team goal). The BL5 legacy package works on BL6 legacy beta, so it's probably just a matter of adding it to the bodhi 6 repo (and perhaps update first), so possibly not much work. I often imagine things are easier than they actually are tho.... netstar might now if it should be rebuilt or repackaged for bl6 legacy or if the existing bl5 package just copied to bl6 legacy repo, he might even be packaging it for us already?
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Post by oliviermondo on Nov 27, 2021 13:35:42 GMT
I installed the evisum package listed above and it works perfectly . Thank you for your answer . kev392 , thank you for your suggestion about Software Request . |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 20, 2021 2:24:21 GMT
Lotsa updates today for Debian 11.2. I've noticed Debian rarely has any updates between point releases, then they all come at once. Ubuntu seems to update stuff whenever...
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