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anonymouse Member Posts: 52 Likes: 10	Features needed for next version Nov 15, 2020 18:33:18 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by anonymouse on Nov 15, 2020 18:33:18 GMT Hi, Could you devs please add "Flatpak" and "Snap" type of things, installed by default, as well as a GUI way to add users in version 6? Thanks.

anonymouse Member Posts: 52 Likes: 10	Features needed for next version Nov 15, 2020 18:37:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by anonymouse on Nov 15, 2020 18:37:29 GMT Oh, and please include Kodi as well

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Unfortunately no.

Bodhi idea is to be minimalistic and do not force any user use what he does not want. Installing bare system and then SW the user needs is a matter of several minutes. The only limited room for this idea could be a apppack version. I am not sure our main dev leader Ylee is OK with it.

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Nov 15, 2020 18:33:18 GMT anonymouse said:

Hi,
Could you devs please add "Flatpak" and "Snap" type of things, installed by default, as well as a GUI way to add users in version 6?

Thanks.

There are "How-To" guides within the wiki detailing steps to install Snap and Flatpak

Last Edit: Nov 16, 2020 13:57:56 GMT by fidoedidoe: corrected Flatpak typo

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Post by ylee on Nov 16, 2020 14:34:59 GMT

Nov 15, 2020 18:33:18 GMT anonymouse said:

Hi,
Could you devs please add "Flatpak" and "Snap" type of things, installed by default, as well as a GUI way to add users in version 6?

Thanks.

simple answer No.

Adding software many users will not use is not what Bodhi is about. You may think it is harmless but consider this:

When I say the Snap Store (and GNOME Software) is using a lot of memory I mean it comparatively. 400MB on an 8GB system for an app that I haven’t even opened, on a cold boot is… comparatively high compared to other processes I have running.

That is a huge memory drain, to big to even consider for a distro known for supporting old and low resource machines. And it gets even worse. As Clement "Clem" Lefebvre, Mint's lead developer wrote:

Ubuntu is planning to replace the Chromium repository package with an empty package, which installs the Chromium Snap. In other words, as you install APT [Debian's program for installing and managing DEB files] updates, Snap becomes a requirement for you to continue to use Chromium and installs itself behind your back. This breaks one of the major worries many people had when Snap was announced and a promise from its developers that it would never replace APT.

A self-installing Snap Store which overwrites part of our APT package base is a complete NO-NO. It's something we have to stop and it could mean the end of Chromium updates and access to the Snap store in Linux Mint.

And sometime later he also wrote:

A year later, in the Ubuntu 20.04 package base, the Chromium package is indeed empty and acting, without your consent, as a backdoor by connecting your computer to the Ubuntu Store. Applications in this store cannot be patched, or pinned. You can’t audit them, hold them, modify them or even point snap to a different store. You’ve as much empowerment with this as if you were using proprietary software, i.e. none. This is in effect similar to a commercial proprietary solution, but with two major differences: It runs as root, and it installs itself without asking you.

So my plans for Bodhi's next release are to follow Linux Mint's lead and do the same: disable snap completely and unfortunately take over the packing of chromium so our users will still have easy to install access to that software.

We will provide instructions on how to restore the ability to install snap and snap apps for users who wish to use this type of package management.

Only the code knows the truth.

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anonymouse Member Posts: 52 Likes: 10	Features needed for next version Nov 19, 2020 2:21:33 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by anonymouse on Nov 19, 2020 2:21:33 GMT yes i mean apppack. i hope "gui way to add users" is coming? (badly badly needed...)

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