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Post by avlinux on Jan 19, 2024 17:09:31 GMT
Hi,
I'm curious if anyone is building or maintaining Moksha packages on Debian (Stable)? I know Ubuntu is based on Debian but by and large Ubuntu PPA's don't really get along with basic Debian due to semantic differences in dependencies so I'd prefer resources for building on Debian itself if they exist..
secondly..
Can you run both Moksha and regular Enlightenment on the same system? Is moksha separately selectable at Login?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 19, 2024 17:14:50 GMT
The way Moksha is currently packaged, can't run enlightenment on the same system.
But yeah you can build Moksha on Debian. In fact we're preparing for an iso release....
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Post by avlinux on Jan 19, 2024 17:25:51 GMT
The way Moksha is currently packaged, can't run enlightenment on the same system. But yeah you can build Moksha on Debian. In fact we're preparing for an iso release.... Hi,
Thanks for the reply! Good to know, I guessed running both was unlikely.. Do you mean an ISO based on Debian?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 19, 2024 17:39:01 GMT
Thanks for the reply! Good to know, I guessed running both was unlikely.. Do you mean an ISO based on Debian? Yeah. We are preparing for a new version of Bodhi Legacy (32-bit) based on Debian 12. Team has been testing it, I suspect public beta will be available quite soon. My understanding is we will also offer a 64-bit version of it for those interested in using debian as a base too, calling it "deBodhi". I suspect the public beta will be any day now, based on my testing, there isn't much left that needs doing! But I may not be aware of everything...
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Post by avlinux on Jan 19, 2024 19:47:32 GMT
Ooh, that's exciting news!
I'm of course biased but I think Debian is a great base for a project like Bodhi, where you're doing your own thing Desktop-wise and just need a simple and stable wheels and chassis underneath it's very malleable, also it doesn't ram every new flavor of the week down your throat (ie flatpak, snap, pipewire, systemd). Of course any and all of those things are there if wanted or needed but as a developer those choices are not forced upon you.. I use the MX Linux ISO buildchain and the thought of Moksha Debian packages combined with the MX-Tools and Live build system on a Debian Stable base is a very exciting prospect to get Moksha to a wider audience.
I will be keeping my eyes peeled!
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Jan 20, 2024 6:30:02 GMT
Thanks for the reply! Good to know, I guessed running both was unlikely.. Do you mean an ISO based on Debian? Yeah. We are preparing for a new version of Bodhi Legacy (32-bit) based on Debian 12. Team has been testing it, I suspect public beta will be available quite soon. My understanding is we will also offer a 64-bit version of it for those interested in using debian as a base too, calling it "deBodhi". I suspect the public beta will be any day now, based on my testing, there isn't much left that needs doing! But I may not be aware of everything...
I am elated to hear it. Yippee. For one I want to see if my now 17 year old hardware with 2 GB RAM will perform better with 32 bit. I got that idea from Slax they recommend 32 bit even on 64 bit machines that are 10 years or older. I have been waiting for the 32 bit Bodhi 7.0 to drop - so awesome to hear. I also have often wondered (like I do about so many things) why, if you go to the trouble to get Bodhi to run on Debian why you also maintain a Ubuntu version, especially with the way Ubuntu is trending(my only thought was newer apps???) I note Mint felt compelled to start Debian edition (interestingly it is much heavier than its Ubuntu counterpart) as a safeguard. It just seem like a tremendous amount of rework to my neophyte why of thinking. I just hope the Bodhi Dev team does not run itself in the ground and burn out as you guys have created something special with Bodhi. That being said I am also exited to hear about deBodhi. Thank to all of you. The Scarlet Pimpernel |
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Post by xpistian on Jan 20, 2024 6:59:13 GMT
Hi,
I'm curious if anyone is building or maintaining Moksha packages on Debian (Stable)? No, but I've built Moksha on Gentoo. Compiled it from source and it worked. But as others have pointed out, you can't use Moksha when you have Enlightenment installed.
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Post by avlinux on Jan 20, 2024 14:05:32 GMT
Hi,
I'm curious if anyone is building or maintaining Moksha packages on Debian (Stable)? No, but I've built Moksha on Gentoo. Compiled it from source and it worked. But as others have pointed out, you can't use Moksha when you have Enlightenment installed.
Interesting, I may try it in a VM,
Any suggestions or gotchas for compiling? What did you use for a prefix?
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Post by xpistian on Jan 20, 2024 17:48:47 GMT
No, but I've built Moksha on Gentoo. Compiled it from source and it worked. But as others have pointed out, you can't use Moksha when you have Enlightenment installed.
Interesting, I may try it in a VM,
Any suggestions or gotchas for compiling? What did you use for a prefix?
It's been a while and just as I was now trying to do it again, it wouldn't work. As far as I know I just ran the autogen.sh file, configure, make and make install in the local moksha folder I cloned from the official repository.
Unfortunately, when I try it now eina and others complain about missing lua... which is there, so I don't know what's the matter.
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Post by avlinux on Jan 20, 2024 21:35:02 GMT
Meh...
I just tried as well, I forgot I'd have to build EFL first and separately and install reams of development headers..
I used to go down the rabbit hole on these sorts of things but I don't anymore, sounds like the devs are working on Debian builds anyway so I'll leave the details in their much more capable hands... I can visit Moksha land on the actual Bodhi 7 release..
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Post by xpistian on Jan 21, 2024 14:36:07 GMT
Meh... I just tried as well, I forgot I'd have to build EFL first and separately and install reams of development headers.. I used to go down the rabbit hole on these sorts of things but I don't anymore, sounds like the devs are working on Debian builds anyway so I'll leave the details in their much more capable hands... I can visit Moksha land on the actual Bodhi 7 release.. OK, I fixed it. I had built EFL with the lua flag, not luajit.
After that, the installation was as follows:
cd /path/to/moksha_source
./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local/moksha
make
sudo make install
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