New 7.0.0 install search redirecto

Hey thanks for the reply

Yes I am aware that Ubuntu defaults to snap everythign. Another things I have a hatred for, but I always rip out snap when I get a chance. Not happy with flatpak either, but both of those are outside the scope of this particular discussion. I'm not sure I noticed what ddg was doing last night when I noticed all of this, but I ripped it out anyway and had already placed new links.

Yes I agree that sketchy and shady may be relative. And I do totally understand the need to help pay for development. I contribute to some projects but I am sure I get far more out of everything than I give back financially. I totally agree that servers need to be paid for, developers need beer and coffee etc. I am not philosophically against any of that, and in fact would support it. What I have a problem with is doing these sort of things and not being forthcoming with the users. You can see the refer code in the url when you look at your address bar. For instance, I always see the referer for itsfoss when I get a link from tat site. Good let them get credit for driving traffic, cool. If you say Hey we use a referer to get credit for searches, then great, at least I have a choice. I would probably choose to support in such a circumstance, as I do with foss. without being open with it is, and I stand by it, shady. Then take it to even the next level above that with the yahoo redirect. SO assuming i trust yahoo, which I do not, I could see what it's doing in the URL. But this is being hidden. Bouncing through ddc.com which instantly redirects to yahoo so you don't even know what's happening unless you are paying close attention. I think you have a right to know what your computer is doing and attempts to hide what your own device is doing from you is just...not good. I mean if you do a normal web search for ddc.com you get many results where it is being considered malware or a virus, depending on where you look. Here is just one example : malwaretips.com/blogs/remove-yssads-ddc-com/. Maybe calling it a virus is a bit bombastic, it certainly is undesireable. When you co op someones computer to perform actions that you didn't authorize is pretty bad. What's the difference in that to someone putting a bot on your pc to query site and run up ad impressions in the background. I would argue those are samesies with a difference only in degree.

I do appreciate the effort you put into showing the links to use for "clear" search. I'm sure it will be helpful to people.

I guess this is all academic at this point, as I am currently only testing bodhi, and while I find it graphically pleasing, I do not care for how it works. Things that should auto start, and do on other distros dont. The menus aren't really what i'm looking for and just the feel doesn't work with me, tho I am sure that it will be a great distro for some users.

Thanks again for your friendly and helpful reply

Hiya and thanks for the input

Yeah I was looking for a lighter distro myself, which is what brought be over here in the first place. lightweight but graphically pleasing. I got that much stuff might need to be installed specifically, and I'm cool with that. I average more terminal time than graphical setup as well, and was cool with putting the pieces that I would end up needing from perhaps apt, a ppa or build from src. That was i line with expectations. The one program I had a very specific problem with ws my vpn client. While I could manually set up wireguard or openvpn, they provide a convenient gui for more advanced configuration like VPN killswitch when the VPN was down, and an easy way to click and switch to a new geo located server at a whim. The problem was that, despite having start on boot and connect on start configured, the applet would not load on boot. Trimming down boot items is a HUGE benefit of bohdi, but when trying to add something to boot, it should do just that. Instead I would start up in an unprotected state, which is as you ca imagine, less than ideal operation. I could perhaps try and investigate where the failure is occuring, but it sorta leads e to believe one problem tat came up that fast, i was sure i'd end up running into more. Doesn't pass the CBA test.

I was also disappointed with my experience with the memory usage that seems to work so well for you. On a base install (not the app pack) with minimal things like nfs support and my vpn client installed I am showing high usage. I only have 12G on this laptop (max it can handle). I'm running chromium with like 3 windows and multiple tabs on each, My memory usage is as follows (also terminology obviously):

Tasks: 253 total, 1 running, 252 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 0.1 us, 0.2 sy, 0.5 ni, 99.2 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0 st
MiB Mem : 11399.8 total, 386.2 free, 2139.5 used, 8874.1 buff/cache
MiB Swap: 2048.0 total, 2023.9 free, 24.1 used. 8685.3 avail Mem


I'll also note that the 2G swap was a default by the installer, which seems rather small. Last I checked the recommendation was at least as much swap(+10%) as ram to be able to use hibernate (with as much as 2x or I think the formula of 2x active ram - physical ram which often for me means 1.5x ish), Which I assume was why it failed when I tried it, despite there being a hibernate option in the system menu above poweroff. Might want to look into that..default to more swap or remove hibernate option.

That seems a pretty aggressive usage of memory to me. It is gorgeous tho, as you mentioned. The graphics team should get a thumbs up. I also find getting around in the main menu to be rather cumbersome. I can't find what i'm looking for easily. Anti-intuitive at least to me.

Mint was OK, just didn't feel quite right but I was able to use it for a long time. I was somewhat disillusioned when, in the previous posts on this discussion, it was implied that Bodhi is using the mint packages instead of rolling it's own. As mentioned in the discussion of the search parameters defaulting in chromium to minty ones. Kinda seemed off that the poster said that the tags there was useful so the distro can get credit or money for those directs or whatever, yet they are giving that search credit to one of the other flavors.(not even touching the ddc thing now)

Now please don't take this as a slap against Bohdi. Like I said it's pretty and I can see why someone would like to use it. I like the way the alternate desktops are on the right and the look / feel of thunar and terminolology, and that it doesn't shove chrome or ff down our collective throats and had no snap. Perhaps were I to stay around long enough I could get it to a space where it would totally reflect me. There's just too many other options (I've downloaded like 10 different - all Ubuntu based of course, despite a distinct wariness/side eye of Canonical's questionable decisions - don't get me started on pushing snapd) so it will just be easier to format and install each one to see what distro just "gets" me from the start, ya know? I have an older machine but maybe i need a balance between light and oob functionality

I appreciate the dev's hard work and will continue to suggest Bohdi to people looking for something along it's lines. Again I appreciate your time and BTW - I love the Scarlet Pimpernel, not to mention my hero Hunter;)

We can't stop here this is bat country

FYI, The autostart thing is kinda a bodhi fault thing. To autostart gui apps in bodhi, we have our own way of doing it, we don't follow xdg spec; unless something changed, bodhi does NOT start stuff from the autostart folder. If you want Bodhi to start something from desktop file, you add it to startup apps in the settings gui.

No kidding.  I use an adblocker, and already whitelisted that viglink redirect stuff so I don't normally see anything when using bodhi forums on my main PC, but if we're paying for ad-free, then why those viglink redirects still exist?  I assumed they're some form of ad, and I feel like I do see those when I use bodhi forums from other machines....

I Appreciate all the information here, and I really wasn't trying to get bogged down in all this. I was expressing opinions as nicely as I could and I get thing on here about this I must be just trying to make myself look ridicuous. I was not looking to get bogged down into he said-she said. just trying to have a simple discussion with out mud slinging defensiveness. let me be as plain as I can be. I have nothing at all against Bodhi. For the reasons started, my own reasons not looking for a rebuttle, they do not fit me. I have not slammed the developers or the distribution yet there seems to be a jump to try and "defend" it from some perceived sleights, and attack me, and prove just how wrong I can be. One of the reason people don't like to come on to such forums. The inability to give an opinion without being jumped on and attacked. So as plan as I can be. I appreciate your work.

I'm out

So long and thanks for all the fish. Does this perhaps end it?