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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Sept 9, 2023 1:51:23 GMT
Is LXLE an active distro anymore or as it been discontinued? The following links: www.lxle.net/www.lxle.net/forums/www.lxle.net/?id=supportwww.lxle.net/downloadhave returned Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.for the past 4 weeks. To an extent it would make logical sense with Lubuntu, which LXLE is based on, changing its main focus and Ubuntu moving away from 32 bit support. Anyone know what the status of LXLE is? Kindest regards, The Scarlet Pimpernel |
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Post by wimc on Sept 9, 2023 2:36:49 GMT
Perhaps they are upgrading the server and something went wrong. Wild guess.
EDIT: missed the part about 4 weeks. Hard to tell, its the host end having the internal server error.
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Post by thewaiter on Sept 9, 2023 5:30:02 GMT
LXLE is fine but have you heard about Bodhi Linux? Also great distro  S |
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Sept 9, 2023 8:12:46 GMT
Well, I have your word for that (LOL) but my experience has been different. I have now trialed over 40 distros across the following hardware: IBM Thinkpad T61p 2007 2 GB RAM IBM Thinkpad T61p 2007 2 GB RAM (faster processor) Thinkpad W520 2011 16 GB RAM Thinkpad 440 2013 8 GB RAM and while I have had a three other distros that occasionally froze on a given piece of hardware (browser hardware acceleration issues) LXLE is the only one that has consistently frozen on all my hardware every time I have run it; that just bothers me. The thing is, in its time none of that hardware was obscure so the issues with LXLE puzzle me. The freezes are not all browser based. Anyways not a Bodhi issue but it does explain why I was going to engage in the LXLE forum. It is a shame too as I see LXLE as the Yang to Bodhi's Yin in the sense that I view LXLE as we built this for you and Bodhi more as build as you like, ie. a philosophically different in approach in the same at idle RAM weightclass. All the best, The Scarlet Pimpernel |
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Sept 9, 2023 8:13:33 GMT
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Post by wimc on Sept 9, 2023 11:19:59 GMT
Could also be a access (chmod) permission error, will affect lxle.net as whole.
Being so long, laziness perhaps.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Sept 9, 2023 19:59:59 GMT
Their sourceforge repo is still there if you're looking to download their last version, which seems to be focal based. I haven't heard/read anything about it, but my guess is it died. If you still wanna run LXDE these days, you can install it on bodhi if you want, sudo apt install lxde, but the only desktop we officially support of course is Moksha. Alternatively, Debian still supports LXDE and offers it as an option in their netiso installer. |
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Sept 10, 2023 2:41:42 GMT
Their sourceforge repo is still there if you're looking to download their last version, which seems to be focal based. I haven't heard/read anything about it, but my guess is it died. If you still wanna run LXDE these days, you can install it on bodhi if you want, sudo apt install lxde, but the only desktop we officially support of course is Moksha. Alternatively, Debian still supports LXDE and offers it as an option in their netiso installer. Thank you for the response. I already have the latest LXLE distro but as I mentioned it freezes on 4 different computers. For clarity, I am now, personally, a committed Bodhi-ite. My interest in other distros stems from my desire to help others migrate off Windows to various Linux distros, based on their hardware, needs, and technical aptitude. To that end I have run two informative workshops at our public library with 83 total people in attendance. I live in a more impoverished community and many folks are feeling compelled by Microsoft to buy new hardware. Interesting you mention Debian, I was exploring it (reading docs) last night and noted the plethora of supported desktops and locked on LXLE, LXQT, and XFCE. Given it seems Debian as upped their installation game, no longer is strictly FOSS and officially supports so many desktop versions I suspect a lot of the Ubuntu respins that are not bleeding edge distros may go away. But I am still a Linux novice (5 months into my journey), still I have a lot of major software development experience and I suspect Debian roiled the waters somewhat with Debian 12 making Debian itself more of a desktop destination vs servers. Once I get more Bodhi experience I strongly suspect I'll eventually explore how light Debian LXDE and XFCE can be. I suspect you can chew XFCE down to 300 MB RAM at idle and drop LXDE down to the 130-160 range but I am speculating. Given MX-Linux-23 XFCE came in at a whopping 962 MB RAM at idle vs 596 MB at idle with MX-Linux-21 XFCE on the same hardware. By contrast the latest Mint XFCE weighed in at only 503 MB on the same hardware. AntiX-21 was at 128 MB and antiX-23 is either at 316 MB (per their OTB conky-type display) or 219 per free -m. Q4OS leaped frogged from 303 MB RAM with Trinity version 4.12 to 515 MB RAM in version 5. All around is seems RAM at idle is up which makes the moderate jump in Bodhi from 248 MB RAM in Bodhi v6 to 303 MB RAM rather impressive by distro comparisons, especially when you look at the bell weather antiX for the comparison. Excelsior, The Scarlet Pimpernel |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Sept 10, 2023 4:39:27 GMT
If you're running it, are their repos still up? Or do they rely 100% on ubuntu repos? If their repos are also down, I'd suspect they're truly dead.
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Post by thewaiter on Sept 10, 2023 10:32:31 GMT
I have never done any big research about distros comparison but I can remember when my colleague wanted to install Linux on very obsolete AMD Athlon. He naively tried Fedora on it. It was unsuable. Lubuntu was better but Bodhi worked the best. I read about Antix lightness and it is even lighter than Bodhi on RAM usage. Anyway many users claim Bodhi is as responsive as Antix. My question: is RAM usage is the only marker for considering distro great in perfomance and usable for old machines. Apparently not. Your experience?
Stefan
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Post by xpistian on Sept 10, 2023 15:49:50 GMT
I have never done any big research about distros comparison but I can remember when my colleague wanted to install Linux on very obsolete AMD Athlon. He naively tried Fedora on it. It was unsuable. Lubuntu was better but Bodhi worked the best. I read about Antix lightness and it is even lighter than Bodhi on RAM usage. Anyway many users claim Bodhi is as responsive as Antix. My question: is RAM usage is the only marker for considering distro great in perfomance and usable for old machines. Apparently not. Your experience? Stefan It really depends on other things, too. If the processor is sluggish, but enough RAM is available, that'll have an impact. I think the biggest impact of RAM is when there is not enough of it to run anything much besides the OS. So, if you have 1GB and the OS just running takes 800 of that, you'll soon hit a point where the system has to swap to a comparatively slower disk, which slows down the system. But if Antix uses 64MB (just a number) and Bodhi uses 100MB, then sure, Bodhi uses more, but it won't make any difference unless you hit the RAM limit and swapping occurs.
There's another thing. As far as I know the desktop themes of Moksha and Enlightenment come as a compiled package usually, whereas other DE use a collection of files and scripts. This would usually work in favour of Bodhi (or enlightenment/ moksha), even IF it used more RAM.
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Post by thewaiter on Sept 10, 2023 19:59:16 GMT
Yea, I also think the performance is related to widget tool and programming language. Moksha is based on C language which is very fast and takes minimum RAM. Code speed also relies on coder's skills and optimization. That's why I asked my question. I think people are wrong when consider distros according RAM usage only. Of course I understand PC with 1 GB RAM will swap soon to the disk. Anyway, I can confirm Bodhi uses compiled themes and cfg files are stored in eet container which is 10x faster to read and write than txt file. Enjoy the beauty and speed of Bodhi Linux...
Stefan
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Sept 18, 2023 4:56:44 GMT
As of today, 9-18 the LXLE forum and downloads page is back, so it seems LXLE is now alive.
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Post by Sharp on Sept 19, 2023 17:12:05 GMT
Good to here they are still up and running.
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Post by TheScarletPimpernel on Oct 1, 2023 6:35:07 GMT
So I am now thinking once again that LXLE is in limbo. I signed up for the forum and found out it is not functional, you can sign-up but the activation link fails. And after looking at the forum it appears there has been no activity in some time.It is crickets over there and most distros with dedicated forums have activity. Time will tell.
But from my perspective, as someone who is now teaching/leading/guiding people through educational classes/workshops in community venues on migrating off of Windows it is disappointing. LXLE fills a niche in terms of non-technical folks with low spec hardware(2 MB RAM, 2 GHZ CPU) who want/need a do it for me out of the box desktop environment. In my estimation, folks like that, still need an active support forum and LXLE's sadly appears dead.
With the LXLE forum apparently not able to process new users it is difficult to resolve the disto's status concretely. At any rate, that is my current update for those who have been following this thread.
I am proud of the fact in the two months I have been leading classes/workshops, I assisted 51(out of 60) people in getting off of Windows and onto various Linux distros.
Cheers to all.
The Scarlet Pimpernel
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