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Post by ylee on Aug 3, 2020 17:43:27 GMT
Palemoon was requested some time ago. And has been in our repo for some time. This is a sample request for palemoon and also a reminder for me to keep it updated  Palemoon is a web browser and a fork of firefox. Some people prefer it to FF, it is allegedly faster and uses less resources. For the record I updated palemoon today in Bodhi linux 5.x repos. |
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Post by ylee on Aug 21, 2020 19:06:06 GMT
Just a note palemoon has been updated in Bodhi Linux 5.x repos to version 28.12.0-2.
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Post by ylee on Sept 21, 2020 13:05:58 GMT
Pale Moon 28.13.0 has been released. This is a compatibility, bugfix and security release. Now in BL 5.x repos. Enjoy  |
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Post by ylee on Oct 2, 2020 11:47:05 GMT
Not sure I should announce all updates to palemoon as it appears to happen quite often. But it has been updated yet again. I am following them on Twitter so I will notice as I don't use this browser.
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Post by eshu on Dec 17, 2020 23:36:17 GMT
Not sure I should announce all updates to palemoon as it appears to happen quite often. But it has been updated yet again. I am following them on Twitter so I will notice as I don't use this browser. Thank you so much. Sounds like quite a lot of extra work... Just wanted to try it for fun, but since I've found the right theme for it I would not like to let it go anymore... |
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Post by ylee on Dec 18, 2020 0:49:00 GMT
Thank you so much. Sounds like quite a lot of extra work... Just wanted to try it for fun, but since I've found the right theme for it I would not like to let it go anymore... Glad to be appreciated Speaking of which palemoon is prob due for an update soon, at least it is not updated as often as Firefox or Chromium (linux mint updates chromium about every 2 weeks). But yes packaging things takes more of my time than I would like. But it is what it is. It is all part of maintaining a debian based distro as opposed to say a code based distro. Personally I like debian distros and even pay attention to the people that package for debian and or ubuntu. thanks for the feedback |
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 21, 2020 4:12:52 GMT
+1 for Pale Moon browser. I installed this yesterday after finally understanding the jargon 'repo' meant repository and I went on a hunt for it and somehow managed to get it to install applying the same logic as I used with a similar .deb package. Sorry for being a numbskull and/or drifting off topic here, but is there any simpleton info out there on the various ways to install applications on Bodhi linux? For example, I have (in no particular order) (1) .deb files (2) Synaptic Package Manager (3) Bodhi App Center which is at least three ways to get software. I am assuming the aforementioned 'Bodhi repo' is a fourth source of applications too? I am so used to the Windows world and Google Play Store on Android that Linux seems a tad overwhelming for the n00b user (often too afraid to ask questions about what for some is probably such a simple topic). Nevertheless, back on the topic of the Pale Moon browser. I installed this yesterday based on the recommendations of the folks on this forum and it is indeed noticeably slicker than my experience with Chromium on Intel Atom netbook with 2 Gb RAM, so this is now my go to browser on this machine. Thanks for the tip. |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 21, 2020 7:42:59 GMT
+1 for Pale Moon browser. I installed this yesterday after finally understanding the jargon 'repo' meant repository and I went on a hunt for it and somehow managed to get it to install applying the same logic as I used with a similar .deb package. Sorry for being a numbskull and/or drifting off topic here, but is there any simpleton info out there on the various ways to install applications on Bodhi linux? For example, I have (in no particular order) (1) .deb files (2) Synaptic Package Manager (3) Bodhi App Center which is at least three ways to get software. I am assuming the aforementioned 'Bodhi repo' is a fourth source of applications too? I am so used to the Windows world and Google Play Store on Android that Linux seems a tad overwhelming for the n00b user (often too afraid to ask questions about what for some is probably such a simple topic).
Apt searches, downloads, and installs deb packages from repositories. Synaptic & Bodhi App Center are using the same repositories. Apt and synaptic are tools for searching from the repos directly. The Bodhi appcenter is a website with links that trigger applications to install from repos. Installing stuff any of these ways is the best, as its what is supposed to work... anything from ubuntu and bodhi repos, which thousands and thousands of software packages by the way. So any of those are just fine.
When software is not in official Ubuntu or Bodhi repositories, there are a number of other ways of installing it. #1 Snap / Flatpak / AppImage #2 PPA #3 deb #4 generic tar.gz #5 build script #6 build from source
All of those can also work with Bodhi too. Snap is a container format with built in overhead/dependencies so is not as integrated as an app you really installed; maybe it wont be able to see other apps files or it wont use your theme or something like that, but the apps usually work just fine. Ubuntu's company runs the snap store, sudo apt install snapd gnome-software. Flatpak is another similar fomat with packages from flathub which you can also add to gnome software. I actually avoid these type formats just cuz I'd rather have traditional fully installed software but they work just fine and are as safe as official repos, but not necessarily as light or well integrated with rest of OS.
PPA is when you add another repo not from your specific distro but also software meant to work for most ubuntu based distros. Sometimes this is newer version than in ubuntu main repos, sometimes maintained by app developer, sometimes volunteer/porter/builder, etc.... but not by ubuntu or bodhi teams directly, although I think ubuntu often host them. I use these, but of course pay attention to what you're adding, cuz bodhi/ubuntu hasn't approved them, so use common sense, but in general if you want a newer version of software or want software that the author provides or recommends a PPA for, this method is fine. Once the PPA is added, you can install and update with apt or synaptic like official repos.
deb is the format that apt uses when it downloads stuff from repos, its like a zipfile with the files and installation scripts in it. Usually the only time you download these directly is when they are not in a repository, which usually means they are commercial proprietary software. Microsoft Teams. Discord. Google Chrome. Common sense also applies, if you trust those companies and got it from their official site, well then probably fine. Apt will not tell you about updates to software installed directly from deb, but their dependencies will be managed automatically when you install them with apt (or gdebi).
Generic linux files you just unzip and run. If you dont have the dependencies already, they'll give you errors, and they dont install themselves, if you want to install you need to do some stuff as root, setup your own menu entries, etc etc. Common sense applies when you grab some random program and run it... you're probably not running an anti-virus.... I heard someone once wrote malware for linux somewhere, so anything is possible...
Sometimes something will be a build or install script. Like you run some script and it's supposed to build and install and do everything for you. Nvidia and brother printer drivers from their website are like that. Again common sense, and you can look at the script and see what commands it's going to do.
Some programs that have very clear instructions on how to build from source yourself on debiain/ubuntu based linux. If you follow the steps correctly, you'll probably clone a repo, install some packages, run make or cmake or whatever the instructions say and you'll make your own generic linux files that will most likely run cuz you had to install more dependencies to build than you'll need to run it. Sometimes the instructions will not be so clear, or expect more experienced users so skip "obvious" details, or you'll follow them and something still wont work because something changed somewhere since the day the instructions were written.
Use timeshift and set a restore point before installing something sketchy. You probably will not have to use it, but once you set it up, its so easy to click and it only takes a minute to update your snapshot etc, will make you feel more confident to experiment and try installing stuff, knowing you can revert.
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Post by ylee on Feb 3, 2021 20:31:59 GMT
PaleMoon has been updated in the BL5.x repos to version 29.0.0-1. However, there is an issue with the build ( compilation failure) on Ubuntu 20.04, so until that is resolved there will be no update in the BL6.0 repo. |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 4, 2021 19:49:18 GMT
cool beans, tested and working for me. So who do we bug to get it added to bodhi app center?
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Post by ylee on Feb 4, 2021 22:01:37 GMT
cool beans, tested and working for me. So who do we bug to get it added to bodhi app center? What concerns me about adding it to the appcenter is this: " Pale Moon requires a processor that supports the SSE2 instruction set.
Run "/proc/cpuinfo" in a terminal, and look for sse2 in the flags to ensure that your processor supports it." I would prefer software there hopefully works on all systems, altho perhaps with a warning like above maybe we would be ok. And for the record I am not sure all our software on the appcenter works on everything Bodhi is installable on. |
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Post by Hippytaff on Feb 4, 2021 22:22:10 GMT
Pentium 4 (2000), AMD Athlon/Opteron (2003) and above/newer have sse2 support. That’s 20 or so years, so doesn’t necessarily go against Bodhi’s old hardware support philosophy. 🙂
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Post by enigma9o7 on Feb 4, 2021 23:13:46 GMT
Pentium 4 (2000), AMD Athlon/Opteron (2003) and above/newer have sse2 support. That’s 20 or so years, so doesn’t necessarily go against Bodhi’s old hardware support philosophy. 🙂 That is interesting to note. That means that Pentium 4 is the only 32-bit cpu it works on. Both those AMD processors you mentioned are 64-bit, as are Intel's newer than P4. Fortunately for me the 32-bit machine I have is a pentium 4 - with only 512mb ram - which is why it works and why the 75mb or so less memory it uses than firefox matters! Another plus is you can install github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases |
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Post by eshu on Feb 5, 2021 0:05:16 GMT
Pentium 4 (2000), AMD Athlon/Opteron (2003) and above/newer have sse2 support. That’s 20 or so years, so doesn’t necessarily go against Bodhi’s old hardware support philosophy. 🙂 That is interesting to note. That means that Pentium 4 is the only 32-bit cpu it works on. Both those AMD processors you mentioned are 64-bit, as are Intel's newer than P4. Fortunately for me the 32-bit machine I have is a pentium 4 - with only 512mb ram - which is why it works and why the 75mb or so less memory it uses than firefox matters! Another plus is you can install github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releasesThank you for (all) the detailed information! eshu |
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Post by ylee on Feb 9, 2021 22:01:15 GMT
PaleMoon has been updated in the BL5.x repos to version 29.0.0-1. However, there is an issue with the build ( compilation failure) on Ubuntu 20.04, so until that is resolved there will be no update in the BL6.0 repo. Palemoon has now been updated to version 29.0.0-1 in BL6 repos |
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