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Rage
Aug 1, 2020 15:26:40 GMT
Post by netstar on Aug 1, 2020 15:26:40 GMT
I'm curious as to why you don't ship Rage with bodhi.
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Rage
Aug 1, 2020 18:34:23 GMT
Post by Hippytaff on Aug 1, 2020 18:34:23 GMT
I think it’s probably something to do with keeping it as minimal as possible, but the devs would be better placed to explain why rage got the chop over other things.
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Rage
Aug 2, 2020 13:05:31 GMT
Post by ylee on Aug 2, 2020 13:05:31 GMT
Rage has an issue with Moksha I don't fully understand. Been a while since I looked at it, but as I understand it one should be able to drag and drop a video into Rage and it plays. Works on e24 does not work on Moksha. Had a conversation with Raster about it but did not learn anything helpful. Essentially Raster said DND is handled by xorg and nothing in Moksha should break it. So it should work. But should in theory work means nothing when it does not work. Obviously something odd is going on, perhaps Jeffs previous attempts to strip EFM code from moksha. I dunno. Only spend one day and about 3 or 4 hrs looking at it and talking with Raster. |
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Rage
Aug 27, 2020 16:03:50 GMT
Post by ylee on Aug 27, 2020 16:03:50 GMT
Took another look at this and turns out Rage does work after all. The issue was I was trying videos GStreamer did not support because I was missing a plug-in. I suppose I should have tested more formats or looked at rage stderr. If you wish to try rage I recommend installing: gstreamer1.0-plugins-good, gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly, ubuntu-restricted-extras.
sudo apt install gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly ubuntu-restricted-extras
I also installed mplayer but unsure if that is needed.
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Rage
Aug 28, 2020 18:59:34 GMT
Post by ondoho on Aug 28, 2020 18:59:34 GMT
This sounds much like mpv. I'd strive to stay with mpv instead of what looks like pointless software development fragmentation (without looking much closer, I could be wrong). |
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Rage
Aug 28, 2020 23:03:12 GMT
Post by ylee on Aug 28, 2020 23:03:12 GMT
This sounds much like mpv. I'd strive to stay with mpv instead of what looks like pointless software development fragmentation (without looking much closer, I could be wrong). Mpv and other forks or Guis using mplayer are probably a better choice. Mpv only if you are more of a linux/cli guru. Personally I think Rage like many of the e-dev EFL applications is more of a Proof of concept. Some like ePhoto and terminology all started as a POC but matured into fully functional and actually impressive applications. Enlightenments File Manager (EFM) also started as a simple standalone POC app. It became functional enough that the e-devs incorporated it into e17 and in all latter releases. (The e17 version is rather buggy and more or less mostly stripped from moksha). I am no big fan of EFM mostly because it is slow and doesn't support things i need like sftp, AFAIK. On the slow issue (compared to pcmanfm), EFM compares more to Nemo or Nautilus but nowhere near as full featured. Raster and I had a conversation once in IRC about EFMs speed loading large dirs, and he is aware of it and has plans on improving it. But rasters to do list looks worse than mine from what I gather. And that is pretty bad  Others like Ecrire (a simple text editor) haven't matured at all and others have more or less been abandoned. I am actually not big on the idea of writing an EFL app to replace well known fully functional apps using gtk or qt or whatnot. The idea is sound, an EFL app better integrates into an enlightenment desktop (or moksha): looks more natural. But the amount of work is unreal and once you start it you need to keep it up to date with EFL and other library changes and bug fixes and feature bloat and .... The EFL community does not have the amount of developers and manpower gtk or qt have. It is almost solely the enlightenment developers themselves, some samsung developers and a very small handful of others. The e and samsung devs are always busy doing their own thing and really are not going to be any help, their own apps are not even up to date and some like Eflete (an EFL theme editor) which I loved not longer even compile anymore. But regardless of all that I need to make time and package Rage for Bodhi5.1. I have been asked several times about it in the past year or so. |
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