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Post by matti85 on Jun 10, 2021 17:33:08 GMT
Hi,
I found Bodhi Linux Legacy when I searched for a compatible operating system for an old computer. I have a couple of questions. I have underlined them. So it’s easier to find them back.
Reasons why I want to install a Bodhi Linux Legacy operating system. Please correct me if I have made false assumptions. I am far from a specialist. - Bodhi Linux Legacy operating system is able to run safe. Bodhi Linux Legacy is free open source software. Updates eliminate bugs in the software. Updates are available when necessary. - Browsers on Bodhi Linux don’t work with flash, since the operating system and browsers are up to date. - Possible to install both an up to date virus scanner and firewall on Bodhi Linux Legacy. Both can be updated when necessary.
Properties of the PC where I want to install Bodhi Linux Legacy on: - 32 bit X86-based PC - Processor: 2.4GHz - Memory: 510MB RAM
First I have to verify the ISO file. Can I do this verification process with Windows PowerShell if I download the file on a newer computer than the old one where Windows XP is on? Since I don’t have a computer with a Linux system.
I think the next step is to decide how I boot my BIOS. I have read the installation instructions. It looks complicated to me, especially with the limited options I have (listed below). What is the easiest option for me to install Bodhi Linux? A test before installation is not necessary for me when that makes the installation more complicated.
1. Diskette Drive 2. IDE CD-ROM Device 3. Hard-Disk Drive C: 4. Integrated NIC (disabled)
Thanks in advance!
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Post by Hippytaff on Jun 10, 2021 18:12:07 GMT
You just need to choose install from the menu when you boot the iso. You might need to change the boot order in the bios. Do you know how to access the bios on that machine?
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Post by matti85 on Jun 10, 2021 18:43:15 GMT
Yes, I can access the bios. I don't know how to change the boot order in the bios. I can select the different options in the bios. Then I have the option to press enter or go back. How can I install from the menu? Should it work if I put the iso file on the C: drive, then go to the bios, select hard-disk drive C: and press enter?
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Post by cooler on Jun 10, 2021 19:01:20 GMT
Hello Matti
Can you please give us more details about the computer you're trying to install Bodhi on? Is it a desktop? Please specify its model/ mainbord code. Maybe you are able to take a picture of the BIOS screen and upload it to this thread so we can identify it /advise you ?!
It is possible that you computer is so old it doesn't "know" to boot from USB. If it can boot from the USB you have to have it inserted before power on /restart.
Looking forward for your response.
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Post by matti85 on Jun 10, 2021 22:11:29 GMT
Hi cooler,
The computer is a DELL21 desktop. BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A02 How can I find the mainboard code?
Hereby the data on the BIOS:
Dell - Optiplex GX270 Intel Pentium 4 Processor: 2.4 GHz Level 2 Cache: 512 KB Integrated BIOS Version: A02 Service Tag: Service Tag
System Time ................................... Time System Date ................................... Date
Drive Configuration ........................... <ENTER> Hard-Disk Drive Sequence ...................... <ENTER> Boot Sequence ................................. <ENTER>
Memory Information ............................ <ENTER> CPU Information ............................... <ENTER>
Integrated Devices (LegacySelect Options) ..... <ENTER> Power Management .............................. <ENTER> System Security ............................... <ENTER>
Keyboard NumLock .............................. On Report Keyboard Errors ........................ Report
Auto Power On ................................. Disabled Remote Wake up ................................ On w/ Boot to NIC Fast Boot ..................................... On OS Install Mode ............................... Off IDE Hard Drive Acoustics Mode ................. Quiet
System Event Log .............................. <ENTER> Asset Tag ..................................... Asset Tag
Arrow up/down to select SPACE, +, - to change ESC to exit F1=HELP
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jun 11, 2021 12:54:54 GMT
Hi, I found Bodhi Linux Legacy when I searched for a compatible operating system for an old computer. I have a couple of questions. I have underlined them. So it’s easier to find them back. Reasons why I want to install a Bodhi Linux Legacy operating system. Please correct me if I have made false assumptions. I am far from a specialist. - Bodhi Linux Legacy operating system is able to run safe. Bodhi Linux Legacy is free open source software. Updates eliminate bugs in the software. Updates are available when necessary. - Browsers on Bodhi Linux don’t work with flash, since the operating system and browsers are up to date. - Possible to install both an up to date virus scanner and firewall on Bodhi Linux Legacy. Both can be updated when necessary. Properties of the PC where I want to install Bodhi Linux Legacy on: - 32 bit X86-based PC - Processor: 2.4GHz - Memory: 510MB RAM First I have to verify the ISO file. Can I do this verification process with Windows PowerShell if I download the file on a newer computer than the old one where Windows XP is on? Since I don’t have a computer with a Linux system. I think the next step is to decide how I boot my BIOS. I have read the installation instructions. It looks complicated to me, especially with the limited options I have (listed below). What is the easiest option for me to install Bodhi Linux? A test before installation is not necessary for me when that makes the installation more complicated. 1. Diskette Drive 2. IDE CD-ROM Device 3. Hard-Disk Drive C: 4. Integrated NIC (disabled) Thanks in advance! The easiest way would be to number 5, boot from USB. Bodhi's ISO is too big for a CD so USB is is your only easy option. If the ISO is a file on C drive, there is no easy way to boot from it. You can use "rufus" for windows to write the iso file to a usb drive. After selecting burn, chose the dd option when prompted.
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Post by matti85 on Jun 11, 2021 17:14:44 GMT
Ok, thank you. I will download rufus and download Bodhi Linux both to the harddrive of a recent computer. Then I write with rufus the iso file to a USB drive and follow the installation instructions. And then go from there for the next step Just one more question about this process. Do you know about which size the usb drive needs to be?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jun 11, 2021 17:34:01 GMT
Ok, thank you. I will download rufus and download Bodhi Linux both to the harddrive of a recent computer. Then I write with rufus the iso file to a USB drive and follow the installation instructions. And then go from there for the next step Just one more question about this process. Do you know about which size the usb drive needs to be?
A 1GB drive or larger is fine, but 512MB too small.
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Post by cooler on Jun 12, 2021 3:18:55 GMT
Hi cooler, The computer is a DELL21 desktop. BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A02 How can I find the mainboard code? Hereby the data on the BIOS: Dell - Optiplex GX270 Intel Pentium 4 Processor: 2.4 GHz Level 2 Cache: 512 KB Integrated BIOS Version: A02
Hi!
I have requested the mainboard code in case it was a custom made PC.
I read on a thread that for someone with A07 BIOS it worked. It might be a good but risky idea to update to the latest BIOS; it's risky because if you have a power failure during update you won't be able to use it anymore. (https://www.dell.com/support/home/ro-ro/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=r128823&oscode=ww1&productcode=optiplex-gx270)
For USB drives use a 1 GB or 2 GB one.
Don't expect "miracles" from a Pentium 4 with 512 MB memory machine. It will be quite slow; if you can add another 512 MB things would be considerably better.
Good luck!
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Post by matti85 on Jun 12, 2021 11:45:20 GMT
Thank you enigma and cooler for the valueable information! First I have to buy a new USB drive where I can write the ISO file on. It wil probably take a couple of days before I have it. I really want to gain experience with a Linux operating system. Because I like the concept of Linux. That it runs slow will be in the beginning not really an issue for me. It would be nice if I could get it running in the first place Adding another 512 MB is maybe an option to do afterwards. Because I don't have a clue how to do that Thanks for telling me about the risk that I maybe won't be able to use it anymore when having a power failure. It is an old computer that works on Windows XP that is not used anymore at this moment. Because of that is the risk with the power failure not an issue for me to continue and try to install Bodhi Linux. I will keep you guys posted when I have a sufficient USB drive and did the necessary steps to write the iso file on the USB drive.
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Post by matti85 on Jun 12, 2021 14:46:39 GMT
I found an USB drive with sufficient capacity. I wrote the iso file with rufus to the USB drive.
When I start up the old computer where I want to install Bodhi Linux on, I can press F2 for setup and press F12 for boot menu. When I press F2 I enter the menu I sended a mail about yesterday.
I pressed F12 and could select to boot from USB flash drive. So I selected this option and entered. Then I got the message on my screen 'strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility'. If I press F1 I get the same message again. If I press F2 then I enter the setup menu. When I go to Boot Sequence and press enter I can't select USB flash drive. Only the options I wrote about in my first message. When I press escape to leave the setup menu, I get the message 'strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility' again.
I am a bit stuck now. I don't know if I made a mistake. Is there something that I can do about this issue?
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Post by oblio on Jun 12, 2021 15:19:38 GMT
It sounds like possibly the file did not write properly in Rufus or, I was wondering if you performed a checksum after downloading Bodhi to verify integrity? I only ask because these are fairly common with newer users.
Please let us know and we are glad to hear you are interested in getting into Linux - we hope Bodhi helps on that path!
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Post by matti85 on Jun 12, 2021 15:40:21 GMT
No, I didn't performe a checksum. I don't have a Linux machine where I can do the checksum on. And I don't know how to do this on Windows PowerShell. Is there a guide how to do the checksum of the iso file on Windows PowerShell?
I downloaded these files: - bodhi-5.1.0-legacy.iso.md5 - bodhi-5.1.0-legacy.iso.sha256 - bodhi-5.1.0-legacy - Not confirmed 771276.crdownload -> I don't know what this file is -> does it mean that something with the dowload of bodhi-5.1.0-legacy went wrong?
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Post by oblio on Jun 12, 2021 17:24:33 GMT
- Not confirmed 771276.crdownload -> I don't know what this file is -> does it mean that something with the dowload of bodhi-5.1.0-legacy went wrong? That bit I am not sure of - possibly someone with more 32 bit support may know? I'm on 6.0.0 at present.
Also, are you able to verify you used "dd" in Rufus? I'm a relatively new Linux user myself so these are about all I can think of to check for now - other Team members may have more direct recommendations. Please keep us posted!
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jun 13, 2021 1:53:05 GMT
The big question is, please confirm if you changed to dd mode after selecting burn. The default choice is iso-hybrid mode, and that doesnt work on most old PCs. If you are sure you made that change, then the next thing I would try is on BIOS's your boot menu, if selecting boot from USB didnt boot from USB, is check under hard drives and see if the USB drive is listed there (my old athlon does it this way, dunno why.)
If not that, go into BIOS settings, and change the boot order and save it such that that your usb (or the drive it finds from it) is listed first.
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