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Post by schanulleke on Jan 20, 2021 18:24:33 GMT
When I change the icon of some shortcut, it jumps to another spot on the screen, and only reverts back to its original position when I do a screen refresh. Dragging it back to where it came from doesn't work. Additional problem: As you can see from the screenshot, changing the existing icon into another one... no longer works. It sticks with the previous one, also after restarts of the system. Bottomline: As I'm installing BL on my nephew's old laptop, he probably won't notice these issues or be too critical about them, and isn't too computer-savvy anyway. All the things (multimedia) he wants to do with his old revamped laptop work just fine in Bodhi Linux. As for me... these series of issues preclude any serious use of Bodhi Linux - for now. But I do appreciate any efforts to fix these issues.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 20, 2021 18:51:41 GMT
Things move around when you are messing with them, both on the desktop and on the shelf. To make sure things are really going to stick, restart moksha. Once that's working, they wont move anymore. It sounds like you can get the icons you want into position, are just frustrated with moksha quirks, and yep its annoying, but if you decide to accept and deal with it, you can make it do what you want. I still dont fully understand how what picks icons for what. On the desktop, icons should use what is in their desktop file. You are probably editing a different .desktop file for the same application not the one on your desktop itself. If you edit the one in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications it wont affect the one in ~/Desktop. When you edit by clicking on the corner icon of a running app you're editing one in ~/.local/share/applications. In Settings Panel / Look / Applications Theme / Icons there are some things that affect which icons are displayed. The checkboxes at the bottom matter too. For example whichever theme you apply with the "use for moksha" box checked will be the ones in the start menu categories and on ibar. the ones for "use for application" appear to affect whats in the corner icon and application icon in menu and (3rd party) plank dock. Still figuring this out myself tho, and the order you apply things changes it. For example if I select ubuntu mono dark with two checkboxes then moksha ark green with just one checkbox then some things are still the colorful mono dark, etc... its tricky trial and error to figure out, but just keep messing with it til you get what you want. But yeah that's why this isnt described as a "beginner distro" but like you describe, you set it up for your nephew, it'll work just fine for him once setup.
if things were too easy there'd be no sense of accomplishment when you finally figure out how to make it do what you want, and that's no fun!
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 20, 2021 19:22:48 GMT
To be fair I am also with Enigma on this. Frankly, I have never changed the app icon. But OK, you simply want it.
I have tried the icon change the way you describe. So, when I selected the different icon from the folder it really does not work (odd). You apparently found another issue. I tried this trick: I selected "default" radio button, applied and then again "custom" button and applied. Since then it works fine...
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 20, 2021 21:52:21 GMT
OK, I think I have a code snippet for solving this issue. Let me test the code and commit if test passes.
Stefan
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Post by schanulleke on Jan 21, 2021 11:38:32 GMT
I tried this trick: I selected "default" radio button, applied and then again "custom" button and applied. Since then it works fine... Doesn't work on my setup. The bland icon for the .txt file refuses to be changed.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 21, 2021 17:10:47 GMT
Desktop icons use the icons pcmanfm uses. I know they are affected by that setings panel / look / application theme / icons. I think its the 'application icons' checkbox.... select something colorful (ubuntu, adwaiti, gnome, etc, lotsa colorful ones included) and apply it....
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 21, 2021 17:36:05 GMT
I can confirm the EFM behavior looks sorta buggy. Maybe this was the reason why it was removed from BL 3.x releases. I really do not want to spend too much time on this so I at least looked for a workaround. Both your troubles should be explained... Try to follow my video tutorial www.dropbox.com/s/lzwvher8jh4kte6/Kazam_screencast_00008.webm?dl=0Stefan
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Post by schanulleke on Jan 21, 2021 21:27:39 GMT
I followed what's in the movie and found that the culprit is the setting "Use this icon for all files of this type". When this is NOT set... then the icon is changed. However... this makes it completely useless; I really don't want to change each and every icon individually for each and every text file that I put on the desktop - this should be one-for-all icon for text files!
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 21, 2021 22:17:00 GMT
Yep, it should. As I said, this feature is buggy and needs to be fixed. Anyway thx for report.
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 22, 2021 17:48:15 GMT
However... this makes it completely useless; I really don't want to change each and every icon individually for each and every text file that I put on the desktop - this should be one-for-all icon for text files!
Moment, I am not sure you got the video meaning. I set up the text file icon once without "Use this icon for all files of this type" option. When I did the same again with that option, it will spread the icons among all text files. S
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Post by schanulleke on Jan 23, 2021 17:56:56 GMT
Moment, I am not sure you got the video meaning. I set up the text file icon once without "Use this icon for all files of this type" option. When I did the same again with that option, it will spread the icons among all text files. Even crazier than I thought.
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Post by Hippytaff on Jan 23, 2021 18:05:49 GMT
So just choose the “use this icon for all files of this type” option. That should do it right?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 23, 2021 18:50:27 GMT
I think he's saying gotta do it twice for it to spread or work or stick correctly. If I understand right; haven't tested.
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Post by schanulleke on Jan 24, 2021 12:41:31 GMT
So just choose the “use this icon for all files of this type” option. That should do it right? First, one has to UNCHECK the "Use this icon for all files of this type" to change the icon for a particular file type, .txt in my case. The icon is changed. Second, when I then CHECK the "Use this icon for all files of this type" and drop any other .txt file onto the desktop, then this also changes its .txt icon. This non-intuitive workaround works fine. Thanks. Consider this problem as solved.
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 24, 2021 12:58:30 GMT
Sorry for an inconvenience. I have been using Moksha for years and never noticed this issue. Not many users use EFM as default file manager. I looked at the source code briefly and it is pretty hard to understand. As this is not our top priority in to-do list, I am gonna put it to the bottom. Maybe one day I will look again and if lucky, I will fix it.
Stefan
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