jamesb
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Post by jamesb on Jan 7, 2021 15:59:39 GMT
Hi there,
Fujitsu Lifebook S6120 (Pentium M, 2GB, upgraded with 128GB SSD (via IDE adapter, really cheap now ;-)
Had installed Bodhi Linux 3 previously on the old harddisk,
after SSD upgrade tried to install Bodhi 5.1 (legacy)
error messages during install: ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40) ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) ata1: SRST failed (errno=-16)
after some time system starts, but would not see harddisk (tried with fdisk -l), tried Puppy Linux, same problem, with Gparted CD, also the same, no harddisk recognized
gave Windows XP a try, worked perfectly, 128GB disk space; so the hardware setup with an SSD connected to IDE via adapter works in principle, but who wants XP nowadays when there is Bodhi Linux ;-)
tried Knoppix 7.2, worked!
So what's the matter with Bodhi, and Puppy, and Gparted? Did some googling, seems to be a kernel issue (effecting all distros with kernel 4.15 and higher)
well, then Bodhi 4.5 should work! Nope :-( Live system runs fine, disk is recognized (yeah!), but when installing to disk screen freezes after having copied all files, dvd is ejected, screen goes black, only a cursor to be seen, seems to work still, after some (long) time system shuts down. When restarting (manually) does not boot.
Well, now we've got Bodhi 3.2.1 as a last resort
Yesss! Everything seems to work. SSD speeds up system start enormously (approx. 30 seconds from pressing the power button the system is up & running! I plan to use it for recording my old vinyl records and music cassettes...)
Still, it's a pity that newer versions of Bodhi apparently loose compatibility with older hardware... Any ideas how to get Bodhi 4.5 working, or even 5.1?
Regards
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Post by archaem on Jan 7, 2021 22:51:41 GMT
Hello jamesb, I do not possess enough knowledge on the problem you've shared to provide an adequate solution, and I understand you've mentioned the issue appears to be kernel related. Nevertheless, from what I've read about the problem you've shared in your post, I am curious if you've investigated your BIOS settings and whether or not those settings have an affect on Linux detecting your SSD? Of course, BIOS enviornments vary from machine-to-machine. Nevertheless, I found this discussion from "superuser.com" which seems to discuss a topic similar to yours: Topic Question: Why should I choose (or not) AHCI over IDE in my PC's BIOS settings? Link to forum discussion: superuser.com/questions/4020/why-should-i-choose-or-not-ahci-over-ide-in-my-pcs-bios-settings |
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cooler
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Post by cooler on Jan 8, 2021 4:16:37 GMT
OP says he uses an IDE adapter so he has no AHCI option in Bios. |
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 8, 2021 4:38:16 GMT
OP says he uses an IDE adapter so he has no AHCI option in Bios. OP said he's using an IDE adapter, but did not say nor does that mean he has no AHCI option in BIOS.
Perhaps click on the link you quoted and give it a closer look, it certainly seemed like it could be relevant; seems like a good thing to try to enable or disable in fact, may just resolve the issue.
I suggest we encourage jamesb to confirm if he has that option or not himself, and if so, if changing it helps more OS see his SSD. It may just be because of the adapter that is causing the problems with AHCI or necessitating its use (depending on how its set and if changing it works for not; I'm only guessing.)
Also jamesb if you've never checked with manufacturer for a BIOS update for that machine, wouldn't hurt to make sure you're running the latest version available. |
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Post by jamesb on Jan 8, 2021 9:01:20 GMT
i have the latest available BIOS (from 2007) installed, and there is no option to set the SATA mode
(I've seen some discussions about AHCI, but unfortunately this seems not relevant in my case)
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 8, 2021 9:46:18 GMT
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jamesb
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Post by jamesb on Jan 8, 2021 14:57:39 GMT
this post seems to be about a SSD connected directly; I'm unsure if this might help in my case, as my SSD sits in an adapter which is mimicking an IDE harddisk (and seems to work well as Windows XP and Bodhi 3 installed without problems) |
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 8, 2021 17:28:55 GMT
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Post by ahen on Jan 8, 2021 22:45:17 GMT
I'm doing almost exactly the same thing on a 2004 model HP zd8000, with an IDE/PATA adaptor and a 256 GB mSATA SSD. It works fine with Bodhi 5.1 64 bit (and every other distro tried and wow - it's amazingly fast). I wonder if the problem is related to the actual adaptor you are using (or the SSD). I'm using this one, which seems to be good quality: at Aliexpressand, for what it's worth, with this SSD: SSD |
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Post by cooler on Jan 9, 2021 13:41:38 GMT
OP said he's using an IDE adapter, but did not say nor does that mean he has no AHCI option in BIOS.
Perhaps click on the link you quoted and give it a closer look, it certainly seemed like it could be relevant; seems like a good thing to try to enable or disable in fact, may just resolve the issue.
OP has shared the model with us; it's a really old machine... I've had a few Lifebooks (until recently also a Lifebook 6420 model with a Core2Duo that I used for travel on holidays) and by he name I supposed it was so old that SATA was not available at that time; turns out I was correct as I checked now the specs for his laptop
Had he had a SATA port he wouldn't have bothered with adapters.
Having own/used more than 100 laptop models (many of them ancient) I spoke from experience. I wrote my previous comment from a phone (which I extremely rare do) and that is why it was so "sparse".
Enigma907 your advice is good in general and people should appreciate that you try to help; and it's good that we know he's using the latest BIOS.
My take for his problem is that the kernel "knows" it's a SATA drive and his adapter cannot fully "translate" between the standards. Windows XP has no such problems.. it works with everything.
Having proof that a SSD works with an adapter on Bodhi 5.1 jamesb can only try a different SSD (swap with a friend maybe) to see if things change. Being that the proof is on a different laptop with probably a different SSD and a different adapter making sure this problem is solved by changing hardware stuff could be costly.
Please let us know what make of adapter and SSD are you using so others could avoid at least this combination.
Good luck jamesb!
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jamesb
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Post by jamesb on Jan 9, 2021 16:30:15 GMT
I'm doing almost exactly the same thing on a 2004 model HP zd8000, with an IDE/PATA adaptor and a 256 GB mSATA SSD. It works fine with Bodhi 5.1 64 bit (and every other distro tried and wow - it's amazingly fast). I wonder if the problem is related to the actual adaptor you are using (or the SSD). I'm using this one, which seems to be good quality: at Aliexpressand, for what it's worth, with this SSD: SSDThank you for this info! Luckily your system, although as old as mine, seems to be more advanced hardware-wise
Pentium M has only 32 bit, and no (visible) PAE (forcepae works) I can't think it's an issue with the SSD, as Bodhi sees only what comes from the adaptor
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 9, 2021 16:42:13 GMT
If there are no BIOS settings that help at all, what I would do next is check what driver is being used for the hard drive controller in bodhi 3. Then figure out how to use that driver in bodhi 5.
I once did something like that (following instructions) when I was trying to make my gamepad work on slitaz. I used something like modprobe to check what kernel driver bodhi was using, then loaded it into slitaz. But this was something I did once in my life and wouldnt remember how to do again without looking up.
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Post by jamesb on Jan 9, 2021 17:10:49 GMT
If there are no BIOS settings that help at all, what I would do next is check what driver is being used for the hard drive controller in bodhi 3. Then figure out how to use that driver in bodhi 5. I once did something like that (following instructions) when I was trying to make my gamepad work on slitaz. I used something like modprobe to check what kernel driver bodhi was using, then loaded it into slitaz. But this was something I did once in my life and wouldnt remember how to do again without looking up. I found this post indicating a kernel issue ( I also tried "libata.force = noncq" without effect) affecting kernels above 4.15 Bodhi 5.1 is using kernel 4.9, so no chance apparently, without fiddling with the kernel (which is beyond my capabilities)
BTW I succeeded in installing Bodhi 4.5 over 3.21, tediously keeping the screen from falling asleep during install
PS: I have a Lifebook P7010 lying around, my next candidate (I keep you posted :-)
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