37bodie
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 16, 2020 15:23:06 GMT
Ok, this question has me stumped. I have an old Samsung N145 Intel Atom Netbook running Bodhi Legacy 32 bit. It has 2Gb RAM and an SSD installed. Bodhi generally working fine and is very quick,
Using Firefox 83.0, when I go this website: It works fine with my webcam. Initially the website identifies it as
and then I get a security message about allowing "Camera to Share" and identifies it as:
WebCam SCB-0355N I click Allow and wohoo I can see myself. However, logged into MS Teams via the webapp (teams.microsoft.com) and I the Camera is greyed out. I'm assuming this is likely a Teams issue rather than a Firefox issue, but is there is anything I can set to tell the browser "yeah, I have a webcam". Thanks for any replies.
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Post by fidoedidoe on Dec 16, 2020 15:39:54 GMT
Using Firefox 83.0, when I go this website:
It works fine with my webcam
However, logged into MS Teams via the webapp (teams.microsoft.com) and I the Camera is greyed out. I'm assuming this is likely a Teams issue rather than a Firefox issue, but is there is anything I can set to tell the browser "yeah, I have a webcam". It could be a teams issues, but more (?) likely that firefox restricts access by default to all website and you "allow" on a case by case basis. I'm not sure how aligned the Mozilla page is to your version for firefox but might be worth taking a look to see you can "allow" access ( Link). From memory (?), there is a Teams Camera / Microphone test area so might be worth running up the web page again trying the settings and testing results.
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Post by Hippytaff on Dec 16, 2020 15:51:06 GMT
Apparently you can't test it on the browser version as they have removed the devices option in settings there. Not sure why. I use teams for work and the linux app works well enough here.
EDIT - I overlooked that you're running legacy.
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 16, 2020 15:54:56 GMT
fidoedidoe - thanks for the reply. I have already checked out the permissions on Firefox, but I am unable to "Add" the teams.microsoft.com site to the list. Firefox adds each site on a case by case basis but the teams site is clearly NOT requesting or looking for the webcam in the same way as the webcamtests site does. That's why I came here. I believe "it is a Teams thing". Testing cam and microphone can only be done using a Test Call which isn't available via the teams website, only via the app, which I am assuming is a non starter on 32 bit Bodhi legacy (I do have a Teams app running on 64 bit Linux Mint but of course, it is on a much newer machine), so I guess a test call is out of the question too. I am wondering if a different browser might be the way forward? Getting MS Teams working on 32 bit Bodhi Legacy would be marvellous though wouldn't it?
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 16, 2020 16:16:41 GMT
Update: I just installed Chromium and not only is the whole browsing experience much faster smoother than Firefox on this old Atom Netbook there is good news regarding MS Teams too.
The webcam "Video Call" button is available when I login to Teams. I have yet to make a test call (as I am totally unsure if my partner that I call will be able to suffer slow, but I will report back here if there is a successful call in the the near future).
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Post by Hippytaff on Dec 16, 2020 16:25:29 GMT
Good luck
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 16, 2020 16:42:39 GMT
Sounds like you found a solution. You may also want to give palemoon a try, its lighter on resources than firefox/chromium still fully functional.
Another idea would be, try booting bodhi-64 after writing the iso with dd (or rufus dd mode).... maybe you can install 64-bit on there and it was just an iso write problem? Cuz thats the only way you'll run teams natively. Software that doesn't have a 32-bit version already isn't going to get one, and increasing numbers of existing applications are no longer updating 32-bit versions....
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 16, 2020 21:13:38 GMT
The Intel Atom I have does run 64 bit, but to be honest, it's a pretty naff processor. It has a limit of 2Gb and I thought the 32 bit would probably just be a better trade off for performance.
Is Teams available in the Synaptic Package Manager for 64 bit Standard Bodhi? If not, what we would be the best way to get it if I did try the 64 bit Standard Bodhi?
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Post by Hippytaff on Dec 16, 2020 21:57:05 GMT
You can download the deb file from hereTo install it open a terminal cd to the folder where the deb file is, or move the file to home and open a terminal, then do
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 17, 2020 3:57:50 GMT
The Intel Atom I have does run 64 bit, but to be honest, it's a pretty naff processor. It has a limit of 2Gb and I thought the 32 bit would probably just be a better trade off for performance. Is Teams available in the Synaptic Package Manager for 64 bit Standard Bodhi? If not, what we would be the best way to get it if I did try the 64 bit Standard Bodhi? Yep its up to you, I dont think you'll get any major performance hit by using 64-bit, but it'll give you access to newer software. I have a single core athlon64 with 1.5GB RAM (from 2006) and had tried legacy on it first for similar reason, but switched to 64-bit after a year or so for easier software access and don't notice any difference. I think technically you do lose a tiny tiny bit of ram due to 64-bit addressing instead of 32-bit or something, but also technically 64-bit apps should run faster on 64-bit OS than same 32-bit app on 32-bit OS so I I think overall the tradeoff is worth it - unless you have problems running 64-bit of course, which is what I was afraid of trying 64-bit OS on such an early 64-bit cpu, but works just fine....
For deb installation, bodhi includes command line tools like apt already suggested. If you wanna do it GUI style, install 'gdebi' with synaptic (or apt) then you can "open" deb filess to install them and their dependencies/etc will be managed correctly like when installing with apt or synaptic. (associate deb files with gdebi in pcmanfm if it doesnt open automatically)....
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 17, 2020 7:31:09 GMT
Thank you gents. I will try it out this morning and report back forthwith
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Post by 37bodie on Dec 17, 2020 9:00:45 GMT
Well, I have managed ... (a) to install the 64 bit Standard version of Bodhi on the Intel Atom 1.66 Ghz Samsung Netbook with 2Gb RAM. Noticeable difference to Bodhi Legacy 32 bit? Not much if any. To be fair, the menu is actually smoother on the 64 bit version than on the 32 bit version. (b) to install the 64 bit MS Teams via the "deb" package. Many thanks to HippyTaff for the install line above - this was a life saver for "setup.exe" Windows dumbasses like myself. P.S. The above link didn't work despite being correct, but that is a Proboards/Boards forwarding problem I believe. I am admin on another Proboards forum and the same happens there so I circumvent it using bit.ly links.
MS Teams: I did a test call and the webcam is recognised and works. The Teams app gave me a warning that my CPU is being overloaded. Yup, no sh1t Microsoft, very likely as Teams hogs RAM, but nevertheless it works and as always I am grateful to the kind folks on this forum for helping out.
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Post by Hippytaff on Dec 17, 2020 9:02:08 GMT
Excellent, glad you got it sorted
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