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Post by Hippytaff on Oct 27, 2021 6:50:58 GMT
I sometimes spin up an antix virtual machine. It’s great. Limited applications etc and for me it’s not daily driver material, but there’s definitely a place in Linux land for it.
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Post by ligoxi on Oct 27, 2021 22:13:13 GMT
void linux and antix made to me too a very good impression. I have seen almost all distros around. Bl seems the sweet spot for me. But antix for instance brings some innovation and perhaps inspiration for bl dev team
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Post by mdiemer on Jan 20, 2022 21:24:46 GMT
I recently gave Devuan a spin. The xfce version worked on my Gateway desktop. It's the only xfce recent release that does. Every other xfce causes screen tearing. Only distros to work out of the box (which are up-to-date-releases) are Devuan and Bodhi.
Also tried PC Linux, finally. Been around forever. I installed the LXQT version, then added the LXDE desktop. That works fine.
Currently running Bodhi and PCLOS. Also put them both on wife's laptop. Was able to get MS Office 2010 going for her with Play On Linux, but only on Bodhi. PCLOS is a bit unusual in that it's based on Mandrake, which was based on Red Hat. So it's harder to get certain things to work. Both are keepers, however.
Bodhi of course has systemd. I don't understand the controversy enough to care much about it. I understand even Linus doesn't have much of a problem with it. (How cool must it be to be one of those few individuals who you only have to say their first name, and everyone knows who you're taking about?).
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Post by kev392 on Jan 21, 2022 5:26:39 GMT
I see nobody has mentioned EasyOS. It can run as persistent on USB and has the JWM-ROX desktop. It was created by Barry Kauler who started the original Puppy Linux project. Easy uses the Busybox 'init' system, no systemd. It's now 5 years old. easyos.org/
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Post by ligoxi on Jan 21, 2022 9:55:46 GMT
Not really capable of doing a comparison like kev did for browsers. After thorough testing (not benchmarks just what made me feel comfortable after a week or two as my daily driver) i chose bodhi. But i encourage anyone interested in seeing "competition" to for sure check out artix, void, slitaz, antix and tinycore. And devuan. A question to anyone who knows. Why i read from some people choose init freedom ie offered in artix and that systemd should be avoided if one wants a lightweight and fast experience? In my machines perhaps because they're not too old i am not sure i saw any difference...
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Post by mdiemer on Jan 21, 2022 17:29:17 GMT
ligoxi, in my experience systemd does not make a difference in performance. On my old 2009 Gateway desktop with poor graphics, nothing works better out of the box than Bodhi. So systemd does not affect its performance. I guess the problem people have with systemd is that it is growing beyond what an init program was originally supposed to be, taking over more and more things that had been handled by other programs. Possibly, those who are instinctively prone to conspiracy theories may see this as some kind of, well, conspiracy. But most won't care, unless it has some negative effects on their system, like poor performance, loss of privacy, etc.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 21, 2022 17:57:35 GMT
It may be that without systemd a linux distro can be lighter than with it. One of the main reasons I really like Bodhi is that it doesn't do anything particularly nonstandard in the backend, it can run modern apps, etc. I think using systemd is one of those things that helps guarantee compatibility with modern stuff, and makes it so generic instructions usually apply to Bodhi, etc. For a super experienced user who understand how init system works, that may be a non issue. But for me, I only started using linux a few years ago, and started with Bodhi, and one reason I stuck with it is because it's relatively easily to search how to do anything, and most of what I read applies directly, because of the standard ubuntu base.
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Post by mdiemer on Jan 22, 2022 17:17:45 GMT
Forgot to mention Bunsen Labs. It also works OOTB for me. It is very light, but needs much work to make it usable. In the end I gave up on it for that reason. Took too much time to get things right. But I learned a lot.
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Post by oblio on Jan 22, 2022 20:27:29 GMT
That's a big part of the fun, right?!
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Post by kev392 on Jan 23, 2022 3:25:13 GMT
That's a big part of the fun, right?! There can be a fine line between pleasure and pain
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Post by Robin on Apr 28, 2023 17:37:52 GMT
Here's a kinda cool one: SalixOS (at salixos.org). Xfce desktop, one application per task, Slackware-based and fully compatible with Slackware Current (stable), and no systemd if that matters to you. Simple and very fast! You can also find it in 32-bit. Maybe not for newbies, but I did okay with it even being scared of the terminal.
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Post by oscarb75 on Apr 30, 2023 17:30:32 GMT
In the past, I´ve been using Puppy as second OS. Some performances were incredible: on a Pentium 3 with 256mb Ram it could play two Youtube videos at the same time! I switched to Bodhi because it looks and feels a lot more polished and professional. On an old netbook I am using Antix, and it works very good and it has many customisation possibilities. It is based on Debian, therefore you get a lot of packages for it.
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Post by mynaardt on May 3, 2023 17:02:04 GMT
My main OS is antiX. Don't have the numbers at my fingertips, but it's pretty low on resources, too.
Comparable to Bodhi for RAM usage, I believe.
Although customising it does require messing about with text files that have all the configuration STUFF...
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Post by enigma9o7 on May 10, 2023 4:42:21 GMT
I decided to test out Antix, and yeah pretty impressive. And with debian repos, plenty of software. I think this is my new favorite ultralight distro. Certainly not as pretty and friendly as Bodhi, but it also certainly can get the job done and do just about anything.
The first boot before I customized it was like 76MiB of memory used or something! After a little customization, newer kernel, upgrade to bookworm, app installation, etc, my setup still coming in under 100MiB! Crazy!
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Post by thewaiter on May 10, 2023 9:37:42 GMT
We can hardly compete with Antix with IceWM windows manager. The question is how is it stable, how is the community, how are devs willing to include new requests. I personally do not like that desktop. Maybe it is a matter of time and using. I tried many DEs and WMs and always got back to Moksha. Unfortunatelly I can not be very objective as Bodhi developer but I respect there are more lightweight distros than ours. Moreover I do not have such old computers for searching the most light distro.
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