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Post by michaelxxl on Dec 28, 2020 23:28:49 GMT
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Post by michaelxxl on Dec 28, 2020 23:33:46 GMT
Thanks, Hippytaff. That makes sense. I now have the Enlightened Bodhi 6.0 Alpha on a stick, and it boots up and runs fine on the Ideapad S130. One thing, did I miss this? I'm getting a "Connman missing" error, so no WiFi options - more later. You may want to use wicd instead if you need it. Connman never worked too reliable for me. Total stupid question: Is it possible to run connman with the start everything button? How?
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Post by ylee on Dec 29, 2020 0:26:12 GMT
...I would be fine with Firefox, I never used epiphany. Do you have resources to work on epiphany or should we not focus on the more important stuff? Bodhi is my main distro und my machines are not underpowered (ok, laptop has only 8 GB). Bodhi is slick, fast, snappy but I always felt that 1. Bodhi should not try too hard to be slim. It never will be the slimmest distribution and if it is then it likely wont be my daily distro. Bodhi is punching below its weight, it deserves a broader audience and the "smallest distro" can easily give a wrong impression how good it really is. 2. If I can make a personal wish: would be nice to have a recoll gadget :-) www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/Epiphany is gnomes web browser and we do not maintain it nor work on it, nor are there any plans for any Bodhi developer to aid in its development. To me it is an acceptable browser and works for every web site I have tried it on. You may need to install additional packages to get some videos to play. But also admittedly Epiphany is not the browser I use daily for everything. I use Firefox and Chrome depending on the task. I have multiple other browsers installed tho. I have no intentions of making Bodhi completely slimmed down to barely enough to run efl and moksha. To do so would make it too difficult for many users as some functionality would end up broken and some apps installed via the repos would not work right and so on. If ya want slim go for something like KISS. Doubt it gets much slimmer than that Recoll is indeed a really cool application. But to take the same idea and make a moksha module/gadget out of it would be a several year project for me in all seriousness. Even if I used as much code from the existing app as I could. So without 4 or 5 proficient EFL developers helping me it is not going to happen any time soon. Sorry.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Dec 29, 2020 2:52:28 GMT
When I tested debian i386, which of course doesnt use the ubuntu installer, it had one cool thing I dont think I'd seen in any ubuntu based distro - it asked me what extra apps I wanted installed from a little menu. A couple versions of office were on that list I think (libreoffice and openoffice i think I think maybe chromium or something too, cant remember..). but as I was reading this it made me think of that. Everyone wants different software and bodhi standard installs very little and lets user install whatever they want after the fact, which works great when you know how to do it. But for very first new Bodhi user, being able to check some boxes to have it install an office suite, browser, meida player, and common utils during the first install, would be added convenice for sure. For Bodhi's office choice I'd also suggesting including abiword/gnumeric as the light choice along with libreoffice and whatever one he asked for above if you decide to add that , browsers firefox chromium palemoon, media players smtube vlc kodi, common utils like document reader/fileroller/printer/bluetoothsupport.... yeah it's all in the bodhi appcenter... but if it was presented on a little menu with checkboxes during install, it would basically eliminate any further comments about it cuz it would be more obvious you're expected to pick yer software yourself...
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Post by thewaiter on Dec 29, 2020 9:51:50 GMT
Hello michaelxxl Bodhi always belongs to the category of lightweight distributions. But it means in two aspects. Firstly in little HW resources and secondly in distro approach to be minimalistic. The second aspect is sort of broken with apppack version with preinstalled apps. Anyway, Bodhi has an amnbition to be slim from my POV. Even we were thinking of having smaller ISO than 700 MB for super old machines with only CD ROM, without USB or any other way to install from. Connman: we used to use econnman in the past but it was buggy. We use connection-manager now if you refer to it. I have never had any issue with it. Moreover it offers much more options than wicd or econnman related to VPN and other services. Apps: Bodhi approach is to be minimalistic. I have to confess I do not like out of the box distros. I do not want using the preinstalled VLC because I like Smplayer. I do not want to use Freeoffice as I like LibreOffice or OnlyOffice. We do not want to force any user to believe in our choice. We want user to feel freedom of choice: "Install what you want". Recoll: looks nice but look at the paragraph above. Install what you want Stefan
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Post by majpooper on Jan 1, 2021 18:43:56 GMT
... On a separate note, how is the progress on a repo formation for bodhi6 ? Currently the github repo is good enough, but for every package update we have to manually install the deb files. Is there a way to add the github repo to the apt software sources ? Yes I got around to setting up the repo in the last few days for Bodhi Linux 6.0. It is a signed secure repo on BL 6.0 so you need to install the Bodhi keyring package I made first: wget http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhi/pool/b6main/b/bodhilinux-keyring/bodhilinux-keyring_2020.12.17_all.deb And add the line: deb http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhi focal b6main to your sources.list file on BL6.0. Update and upgrade: sudo apt update sudo apt dist-upgrade I have added alot of packages to this repo but have yet to add all the themes, chromium and prob some misc. other things. It does however have the latest version of palemoon and all of our moksha modules (and enlightenment modules). In the next few days I will be adding the themes and whatever else is missing. Enjoy Key ring installs but fails - can we get an updated key ring for the BL 6.0 repos
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Post by ylee on Jan 1, 2021 20:15:42 GMT
... Key ring installs but fails - can we get an updated key ring for the BL 6.0 repos I just tested on a BL6.0 prealpha install and everything is working fine. To be sure I booted the live ISO and tried it again. Everything was working. So what do you mean it fails? What is the output of the following commands (Just checking stuff): lsb_release -d -s dpkg -l bodhilinux-keyring apt-key list 90828213 cat etc /etc/apt/sources.list | grep "bodhi" sudo apt install --reinstall moksha
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 2, 2021 0:35:27 GMT
Yes I got around to setting up the repo in the last few days for Bodhi Linux 6.0. It is a signed secure repo on BL 6.0 so you need to install the Bodhi keyring package I made first: wget http://packages.bodhilinux.com/bodhi/pool/b6main/b/bodhilinux-keyring/bodhilinux-keyring_2020.12.17_all.deb Key ring installs but fails - can we get an updated key ring for the BL 6.0 repos
Just making sure you did actually try to install it, right? After wget did you:
sudo apt install ./bodhilinux-keyring_2020.12.17_all.deb
If the answer is no, or maybe even if its yes, ylee maybe edit your original post and include that for those just copy & paste, cuz first time thru I was like huh what did I do wrong? oh duh never actually installed the keyring after i wgot it...
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Post by majpooper on Jan 2, 2021 1:41:15 GMT
Sorry - my bad I downloaded it but didn't realize that was not the install. I should have seen it was a .deb package that needed to be installed. Of course once I installed it no more errors.
sudo apt install ./bodhilinux-keyring_2020.12.17_all.deb
THX - good2go now
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Post by 3dfx on Jan 4, 2021 3:17:29 GMT
Hello! I have yet to try Bodhi but have been wanting to for the past several years (didn't have suitable computer until now). I see that 6.0 is nearing release and that's great!
My question is: do you expect nVidia 3080 as well as AMDs new 5000 series processors to be supported and working okay? I've tried a number of distros 2 weeks ago in hopes to switching to Linux again from Windows, and they each had different issues with one of these two (i.e issues with GRUB not displaying an animation and instead just a bunch of flowing text, or not being able to save nVidia settings on non-Ubuntu distributions, not remembering G-Sync settings), or random high CPU usage spikes and CPU fan turning on as a result and when it is usually whisper quiet.
I know these two pieces of tech are still new and cutting edge with their own issues, but I'm wondering if you'd have any idea if I should hope Bodhi to work ok with them based on the Kernel and driver config you provide, or if its best to skip and wait for the next release?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Jan 4, 2021 18:14:17 GMT
Hello! I have yet to try Bodhi but have been wanting to for the past several years (didn't have suitable computer until now). I see that 6.0 is nearing release and that's great! My question is: do you expect nVidia 3080 as well as AMDs new 5000 series processors to be supported and working okay? I've tried a number of distros 2 weeks ago in hopes to switching to Linux again from Windows, and they each had different issues with one of these two (i.e issues with GRUB not displaying an animation and instead just a bunch of flowing text, or not being able to save nVidia settings on non-Ubuntu distributions, not remembering G-Sync settings), or random high CPU usage spikes and CPU fan turning on as a result and when it is usually whisper quiet. I know these two pieces of tech are still new and cutting edge with their own issues, but I'm wondering if you'd have any idea if I should hope Bodhi to work ok with them based on the Kernel and driver config you provide, or if its best to skip and wait for the next release?
The latest kernel officially supported with bodhi is the ubuntu hwe which currently is at 5.4, on bodhi 5.1 or 6.0alpha.
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Post by ylee on Jan 4, 2021 23:41:24 GMT
... My question is: do you expect nVidia 3080 as well as AMDs new 5000 series processors to be supported and working okay? ... I know these two pieces of tech are still new and cutting edge with their own issues, but I'm wondering if you'd have any idea if I should hope Bodhi to work ok with them based on the Kernel and driver config you provide, or if its best to skip and wait for the next release? It is really hard for me to determine one way or the other. But there is a video on youtube running ubuntu 20.04 with the LTS kernel with this video card. He is benchmarking it. So just based on that I would say Bodhi 6.0 can support that video card, but perhaps with some work. Note Bodhi 6.0 officially is not released yet, but I do have an ISO one can test and it works fine. It installs without Bodhi specific repos as I made the ISO as a test before I even set up the repos. Above is a post explaining how to add the bodhi repos to this release. I would suggest give it a try and if ya can get it working let us know and if not then at least you tried and we will know perhaps it is difficult to get BL 6.0 working on this hardware.
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Post by thewaiter on Jan 16, 2021 14:44:06 GMT
Hello there again Let me introduce another new little feature for upcoming BL 6.0 release. It is related to the tasks module. I have been using iBar and tasks on daily basis for years but I always considered annoying behavior when lots windows is opened. It means you can not reach a task item easily. When you want to choose the item, the tasks in gadget are moving from side to side (autoscroll effect) according the mouse position. My goal was to see all items in gadget. Since today it is possible. The feature is not enabled by default though. You need to turn it on in tasks settings. Right click on tasks->Tasks->Settings and enable "Shrink to fit" option. i.imgur.com/FxORdea.jpgthe result look: i.imgur.com/rW5Y7bP.jpgAll tasks shrinked to fit the task gadget. Let's hope you will enjoy it Stefan PS: I will ask Ylee for packaging last Moksha for your testing in both BL 5.1 and BL 6 repos.
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Post by michaelxxl on Jan 22, 2021 18:25:33 GMT
I just installed it. Problem: I always use encrypted partition. Bodhi does not offer mount during start up but hangs. Have to switch to console F2 , mount is offered there. Best Michael
1. Mouse pad was working during installation but does not work anymore now. If I run mouse & Touchpad settings, the application crashes 2. Same with wifi. Seemed to work during installation (used Ethernet cable nevertheless) no it does not work. No network adapter found. 3. fcitx does not honor any language switching (e.g. pinyin/chinese) I was able to install fcitx5. I can switch language now but as soon as I type the program crashes.
All this is very buggy. I am not sure I can fix this all. May try to re-install Bodhi 5
I did a re-installation, selected no proprietary driver. Not sure it was the reason but now
1. Mouse pad works (Dell XPS) 2. Wifi Works 3. Encrypted LUKS at start up is a bit ugly but I can mount it.
Have not been able to get fcitx5 to work. Ibus may be an alternative but was not able to get it to work either.
Does anyone here use Asian characters and has gotten it to work?
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Post by cooler on Jan 27, 2021 9:49:00 GMT
The kernel version in these ISOs is 5.4.0-51-generic. And the EFL version is 1.24.3. This is not set in stone and I plan to update the EFL version to 1.25 and on the Enlightenment ISO also update e to 1.25 before the final release. The kernel version I will update to the whatever is the latest stable kernel in the Ubuntus 20/04 repo.
Hello Ylee
I've seen you've used EFL 1.24.3, although EFL 1.25.1 was released on 8 October (probably by reason of stability)
Do you plan to release an 1.25 version (both EFL an E) in the very near future? Sorry if the answer to this question was present on current topic. I've read all your posts on this thread.
By Thewaiter's answer (below) to Zuul apparently there won't be any other betas or RCs. Can you please clarify?
A million thanks for your great work!
Hello, Will there be an alpha version followed by some betas and RC isos before the final one? Please regard this post as a simple question. It is not a symptom of impatience. Robert (Ylee) has been working on upcoming release. I sorta feel it will be a final release as pre-alpha was without any serious glitches due your positive feedback. The main issue he needs to solve is a signed repository. He is a perfectionist so it is not easy to persuade him to release semi-working solutions. In the meantime I have some time for little corrections to moksha code or language translations. I have never worked harder than on Bl 5.1 and BL 6.0 so I am in a relaxing mode these days waiting for Robert's final work. Also my family needs me. I spent too much time with this project. I need to collect some ideas and energy for making another video "teaser" on YT for BL 6 promo. Unfortunately Bodhi is a big load for just 2 dev guys... Stefan
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