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Post by thewaiter on Apr 17, 2023 18:30:34 GMT
OK, thanx for your videos and feedback. I can look at background issue today. As far as terminology is concerned, sure, I can look at that also, but that application is not under our maintenance, so no promises.
Stefan
EDIT: hmmm, just tested background on BL7 a5 and I can not see any problem.
Which Bodhi 7 version did you install? Alpha 5?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 17, 2023 21:05:27 GMT
You can download the two videos and watch them.
Do you know how to play them in browser? I tried in both firefox and chrome and was told to try another browser:  But download and play of course works fine.
Terminology Everything appears to be behaving "normally" in your video. The bodhi background has a barely barely visible honeycomb, I have to angle myself just right to be able to see it. Maybe people with real high quality monitors sitting in the dark can see it normally. The other backgrounds seem to work fine too...
As to transparency slider, that only works right when you have a compositor enabled, otherwise it does what you showed, somewhere below 20% just goes full transparent and weird. You're right that a new user would be confused at this behavior tho - maybe we could request terminology developers to add a warning if one tries to enable transparancy without compositor enabled as a QOL improvement....
Anyways, to enable compositing, install and load "moksha-module-comptonmod". In addition to allowing transparency to work in apps that support it like terminology, by default some menu transparency and other visual effects are enabled. They are configurable with a text file or by installing "compton-conf" window effects gui, or if you just want transparency and no special effects, unload the module (and delete any .config/compton.conf ) and just run "picom" (under accessories - or put it in startup apps like I do). sudo apt install moksha-module-comptonmod compton-conf  Wallpaper
Your video shows unexpected behavior. I'll try to replicate and post an update shortly... edit: I've tried and tried, I can't replicate that behavior. Mine always changes immediately upon Apply.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 17, 2023 21:35:01 GMT
Idea: How bout a meta-package that installs all bodhi themes, wallpaper, and modules? moksha-extras or something.
Or maybe if not maybe add bodhi-background-* in bodhi-theme-pack (and update description to say its themes and backgrounds).
Anyway just ideas that pop in my head as I'm installing backgrounds now, and had already installed all themes and modules.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 18, 2023 3:39:33 GMT
More Notes on MokshaGreen Gadgets on Shelf: As far as I can tell, the temperature gadget on shelf doesn't display temperature, not normally, not when mouseover, not when clicked. The 3D Monochrome screenshot gadget is cool looking, but doesn't match the others.
The CPU% still is a tiny bit hard to read. Maybe make the font bright and bold (like the battery % gadget) so its easy to see?
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Post by thewaiter on Apr 18, 2023 7:29:11 GMT
Have you compiled CPU module from source with my last changes and tested? As you know I removed percentage symbol for smaller gadget than 40px and centered to the middle of the gadget icon. I will look at temperature and screenshot gadget later.
Stefan
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Post by suolainen on Apr 18, 2023 13:48:37 GMT
@enigma and Stefan 'The Waiter'
Thank you for having a look at that so quickly.
Yes, the videos have got to be downloaded, and watching them in a browser does not really work.
I installed BL 7 alpha 5 - and I can reproduce the issue with the wallpaper on a second computer of mine (which is a modern and fast one on comparison to the 12 year old one you could watch in te videos).
However, I checked again the original ISO, and it works there! No problem at all with changing a wallpaper there. I am really not an expert with coding or programming or even unerstanding exactly how computers work. So my (uneducate) guess is that something must have gone with a programme that I installed later.
At the moment I am playing around a lot with the new Bodhi. I will install BL7 alpha 5 again - and then install all the programmes. I have got a list of all the things I want to install and will see then when and if I can reproduce that strange behaviour with the wallpaper section. After each step I will check whether there is a change in the background and wallpaper behaviour or not.
However, I will need some days before I can find the time to do that. Lots of things to do in real life.
Let's say ... you should hear something from me by next Sunday. Until then you really shouldn't spent too much time on my minor problem. After all the new Bodhi works on the whole almost perfectly for me. The only issue I could complain about is (one more time) wine which seems to have lost wine32 somehow. But that is nothing you could do anything about.
Greetings from Germany Kari Suolainen
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Post by thewaiter on Apr 18, 2023 16:25:26 GMT
Hmm, not sure about temperature module. Mouse over works as expected. Anyway, it needs some time to measure the value. I use udev mode. i.imgur.com/ybFPFiu.pngScreenshot gadget themed Stefan
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Post by thewaiter on Apr 18, 2023 16:52:47 GMT
suolainen : have you performed system upgrade after installation? I made some changes to wallpaper code in Moksha but it was related to new wallpaper which has a fade in effect animation and its thumbnail in file selector was a black square. Let me check once again... Stefan EDIT: works great
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Post by thewaiter on Apr 20, 2023 19:07:05 GMT
Maybe useful info for enigma9o7 In MokshaGreen theme you can use that Moksha feature we talked about in the past. In icons tab you can uncheck "Enable icon theme for Moksha". Green icons from /usr/share/icons will be replaced by default ones defined in edje (theme) container. Unfortunately I broke this feature in ArcGreen. Maybe I will add it sometimes later. i.imgur.com/ZwkBC30.pngStefan
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Post by batden on Apr 22, 2023 14:25:23 GMT
Any release date set for Bodhi Linux 7.0?
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 22, 2023 17:25:10 GMT
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Post by thewaiter on Apr 22, 2023 17:33:53 GMT
Robert is working on Web browser selector. A new tool based on Ryenigma's (our team member) code in python. As I know him as perfectionist, it could take some time...
Stefan
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 22, 2023 21:12:31 GMT
Maybe useful info for enigma9o7 In MokshaGreen theme you can use that Moksha feature we talked about in the past. In icons tab you can uncheck "Enable icon theme for Moksha". Green icons from /usr/share/icons will be replaced by default ones defined in edje (theme) container. Unfortunately I broke this feature in ArcGreen. Maybe I will add it sometimes later.
What does "use icon theme for applications" do? If we don't check that, what icons do applications use? Unlike Moksha's Setting Panel/etc they don't have edje to default too..
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Post by enigma9o7 on Apr 23, 2023 20:35:21 GMT
Here's an issue I think will need to be resolved, but not sure of solution: the ubuntu steam package won't install! It's dependencies depends on "libelf1:i386" but installing that wants to remove moksha.
(This brings to mind a youtube content creator named Linus who removed his desktop while installing steam during a livestream video or something, even typing the "yes i really wanna do this"). I messed around a bit trying to understand or find a way around it, and I think it's related to version mismatches with jammy-backports. If I manually install libelf1:i386 from jammy-backports, then steam will install correctly.
So one solution is to set jammy-backports priority so that everything installs from there by default:
# /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports.pref Package: * Pin: release a=jammy-backports Pin-Priority: 500
Alternatively we could just do it for the specific packages steam needs instead of *.
But I think doing everything is better. Ubuntu 22.04 is already a year old and it's not like there's tons of stuff in backports anyway, but we may as well have the newer stuff by default. Maybe something else besides steam will need backported dependencies so enabling everything by default could prevent additional unexpected problems. Although I guess technically there is some possible minor disadvantage which is why Ubuntu chooses not to enable by default for their users, see help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
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Post by xpistian on Apr 24, 2023 4:51:54 GMT
Here's an issue I think will need to be resolved, but not sure of solution: the ubuntu steam package won't install! It's dependencies depends on "libelf1:i386" but installing that wants to remove moksha.
(This brings to mind a youtube content creator named Linus who removed his desktop while installing steam during a livestream video or something, even typing the "yes i really wanna do this"). I messed around a bit trying to understand or find a way around it, and I think it's related to version mismatches with jammy-backports. If I manually install libelf1:i386 from jammy-backports, then steam will install correctly.
So one solution is to set jammy-backports priority so that everything installs from there by default:
# /etc/apt/preferences.d/backports.pref Package: * Pin: release a=jammy-backports Pin-Priority: 500
Alternatively we could just do it for the specific packages steam needs instead of *.
But I think doing everything is better. Ubuntu 22.04 is already a year old and it's not like there's tons of stuff in backports anyway, but we may as well have the newer stuff by default. Maybe something else besides steam will need backported dependencies so enabling everything by default could prevent additional unexpected problems. Although I guess technically there is some possible minor disadvantage which is why Ubuntu chooses not to enable by default for their users, see help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports Good idea, imo. No one should have that Linus experience.  I mean, even having to type in "Yes, I really want to do this" does not prevent people from doing it anyway.
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