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Post by bodhilover on Aug 10, 2022 14:59:30 GMT
I am playing around with some linux distros for old machines and like Bodhi a lot. But I recently noted that chromium and firefox updates are behind others. Whether using legacy (32bit) or the main 6.0 version does not make a difference, both currently have Chromium 103.0.5060.134 and Firefox 103.0 whereas I noted that another small linux distro already had 104.0.5112.79 for Chromium and 103.0.1 for firefox for some time now if I am not mistaken.
Why is bodhi behind at the moment and are timely updates taking care of?
I am considering using Bodhi as my main system, so timely browser updates are in my opinion an important matter.
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Post by Hippytaff on Aug 10, 2022 20:19:02 GMT
Hi Bodhilover
Unfortunately being such a small team we need to prioritise what’s worked on. We have only two devs, one of which does the majority of the packaging on top of everything else they do. As far as I’m aware though it’s just chromium that we actually package for Bodhi to avoid snaps. We get Firefox from the Ubuntu repo as is the case with the majority of packages that are not moksha related.
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Post by enigma9o7 on Aug 11, 2022 2:18:35 GMT
For Bodhi 5 (32-bit/legacy and 64-bit/standard), we get our firefox and chromium updates from ubuntu directly. My understanding is Ubuntu releases them one-week after upstream. These will continue until April 2023 when Ubuntu 18.04 and Bodhi 5 end their lives.
For Bodhi 6 standard, we get our firefox from ubuntu. But chromium is manually updated by bodhi, and perhaps sometimes takes more than a week after release.
(For Bodhi 6 legacy beta, currently bodhi is not providing latest firefox at all, and chromium is provided by debian.)
If you want faster firefox updates, I recommend adding this PPA:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/ppa
If you want faster chromium updates, I recommend adding this PPA:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:saiarcot895/chromium-beta
For the absolute newest releases, Firefox is available in a tarball direct from Mozilla, which after manual installation, updates itself. And 64-bit Google Chrome proper is available as a deb from google, which upon installation will add google repositories to your apt sources and so it'll update with regular apt updates.
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Post by ylee on Aug 11, 2022 22:01:30 GMT
I am the one the packages and updates our repos. First of all I don't have anything to do with FF updates, they come straight from Ubuntu (or Debian if using our Debian version).
Second of all, I update Chromium shortly after Linux Mint updates it. I follow the Linux Mint release cycle. I should say in theory I update then because sometimes I delay it. Might delay it because I think it has issues (did that once) or might delay it because I feel I have more pressing concerns.
I also update Palemoon in the repos but you did not mention that ...
I view Bodhi as a base for users to do what they wish. If you want more updated software than one finds in Ubuntu's or Bodhi's repo, it is up to you to find a way to install it. If it is something critical like a library other apps might use just be aware you can break things. Of course (most likely) there is little harm in updating your web browsers.
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Post by bodhilover on Aug 23, 2022 18:03:46 GMT
Hi All Very helpful and to a large extend reassuring. I get the impression that Debian is faster than Ubuntu in providing updates, for Chromium as well as Firefox. The other small distro I talked about in my first message is Debian based. As of now they have Chromium 104.0.5112.101 whereas Bodhi 5.1.0 Legacy 32 bit has 103.0.5060.134 built on Ubuntu 18.04. Bodhi 6.0 64bit now has 104.0.5112.79-1. Firefox for Bodhi based on ubuntu is 103.0, for Debian based distros it is already 103.0.1. I think about adding the mozillateam/ppa, but am more hesitant about the chromium PPA, enigma9o7 suggested. Afterall, it is not official and can be a stability or even security risk, and the Bodhi team, rightly so, warnes for using them. ( www.bodhilinux.com/w/adding-software/ ) The mozillateam does not sound literally as a "personal" package archive, being more of an (official?) team effort (am I right?), whereas the one suggested for chromium seems more of a one person effort. When it was only for myself I wouldn't care that much, but I am also putting a linux distro on a machine for other people sometimes. In that case it should be something that requires hardly any maintenance, being stable as well as secure, so I install mintupdate and select automatic updates for them. So you understand that in this situation I want the updating of browsers to work with mintupdate. This is not always the case as I understand from some of the Debian pages I read (in the case of chromium). I am now considering installing the Brave browser instead of Chromium. If I follow their official advice for linux (Release Channel Installation), brave.com/linux/#release-channel-installationwould that result in a situation where Chromium gets updated automatically when I have mintupdate installed? (I am far from an expert in linux commands yet, but at least I suspect that the brave repository is added right?) |
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Post by bodhilover on Aug 24, 2022 8:04:00 GMT
Just did a release channel installation of Brave on Bodhi 6.0 64 bit. Went smoothly. Hope that it gets automatic updates wen using mintupdate as I mentioned above. An advantage of using Brave instead of Chromium on its own is that I don't need to find out how to install add-blockers in Chromium, which is not as straightforward as in Firefox.
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